[USA] [Feminisme] Trump’s election has women swearing off sex with men. It’s called the 4B movement.

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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/11/08/trumps-election-has-women-swearing-off-sex-inside-the-4b-movement/76131121007/

The 36-year-old entrepreneur says she’s been part of the 4B movement for two years. Originating as a protest against misogyny and sexism in South Korea, the movement has four requirements for women who participate: No dating men, no marrying men, no sex with men and no childbirth.

#USA #DonaldTrump #Feminisme #4B

  • Snoopy@jlai.luMFrançais
    4·
    2 months ago

    I pondered a lot before deleting your post. You are missing the point of this analogy. Look at the bigger picture.

    Firstly, it’s not a person but a movement that some women want to follow, its their choice.

    So to take something as fun and interesting as “going on a date with a potential partner” and turn it into “studying and dissecting a skittle”, signals pretty big incel terminally online energy.

    • How many women were rapped ?
    • How many women were killed during a relationship ?
    • How many are doing house work ?
    • How many women have a good salary ?
    • How many american voted Trump ? And what about their abortion right ? Did you vote him ?

    They will consider it for their next date or simply stop and focus on themselve without us. That was the point of the bowl’s analogy.

    The whole bowl is toxic as fuck until men listen to them and change their habit. So you understand why some of them can’t bear anymore ?

    • pixxelkick@lemmy.worldFrançais
      21·
      2 months ago

      The analogy isn’t a good fit.

      When you sum up the entire concept of a relationship with another person as being equivalent to eating 1 skittle, you will just end up alienating men and further polarizing.

      The analogy is simply just not a good one. It completely misses what matters.

      The skittle analogy is a great example of one that tries to sound smart but when you analyze it, it fails under scrutiny.

      It’s easy to just “not bother” with eating a skittle, it’s just a skittle.

      But relationships aren’t a bowl of skittles at a party you can just shrug your shoulder and go “no thanks” too. There’s other food than skittles, and Skittles aren’t even very nutritionally sound.

      A better analogy would be something like:

      You live in a giant castle where there is an eternal feast enjoyed by all. However, one item at this feast is poisoned and will cause you extreme unpredictable harm if consumed. This is the only good food available though, your only other option is to live off an extremely flavorless gruel that is gaurenteed not poisoned, as if you leave the castle, you die. Thankfully though if you make friends with the other people in the castle, you can gain some insight on what foods tend to be poisoned vs not, but it’s not perfect. Many people also remark the food is the greatest they have ever eaten, and they enjoy their meal safely each day… Do you choose to risk the very small chance of harm, or do you choose to starve?

      That is a closer analogy to the actual situation, and suddenly the answer is no longer so black and white. Skittles are not an apt comparison to a relationship, because a relationship is deeply coveted and desired by most people. People in history have killed and gone to war over relationships.

      No one has ever burnt a city to the ground over a skittle.

      • Snoopy@jlai.luMFrançais
        2·
        2 months ago

        The analogy on the castle isn’t a good one, they want to break free from the castle because it is populated by mad men, the castle is unsafe because they are being controlled.

        So they will build a new one for women only and create a safe space. A web-trusted women network. Lastly, it is a trend that may last or not. That may shape your relationship.

        Sorry i don’t have the energy to debate on those detail. Again, you missed the bigger picture because you are to focused on this analogy.

        Yes, it will never represent exactly a relationship, its aim is to sum up their decision :

        I had enough bad experience with men. 1/2 of the population have voted a rappist that launched a direct attack to the capitol and fucked up my abortion right so i’m leaving.