The Canadian government warns that some US states have enacted laws that may affect LBGT people.
  • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    I don’t follow - my understanding of the term is that it encompasses everyone who fits under the umbrella. if you’re not under the umbrella, the acronym isn’t going to fit either, no? can you give me an example of who you mean?

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      I’ve seen/heard of people specifically disavowed the term “queer” for their personal identity, but only a couple times and I, like others here, much prefer “queer” as a catchall term for brevity in all cases where there isn’t someone objecting to it being applied to them.

      • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        1 year ago

        yeah, I’d be curious to learn why. like I’m all for a different umbrella term but it’s hard to pick one without understanding the complaint.

          • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            1 year ago

            yep totally fair. I mostly interact with younger trans people - a lot of the boomers are just straight up dead here because of how the government handled AIDS. so there isn’t the same kind of memory. like 40 is unfortunately the oldest I’ve met. it’s rage inducing to think about - I transitioned with literally zero wise elders around to provide guidance.

          • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            I get that for older gay people in English-speaking countries and i appreciate that you shared this. My perspective on this is rather different, as i’m from Germany and completely out-of-date English slurs are obviously not something people here normally have a personal trauma from. On this side of the North Sea, the people who take objection to the term queer are mainly assimilationists who don’t want to be lumped in with anybody who is too flamboyant, loud and gender-nonconforming for their straight friends and business partners, or they’re outright terfs who love to make up stuff about how lesbianism is erased by the queer agenda (ofc most of the time these aren’t even lesbians, and if you see them at a counterprotest to a Dyke* March, odds are they are paid to be there by one of the European fronts for the Heritage Foundation). So i’m not used to needing to pay attention to who i piss off with the term, because my experience is that it reliably pisses off people i want to piss off.

              • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Likewise, i’m feeling kinda icky because my previous opinion towards the term kind of brushed over the trauma queer elders had to endure. Because it originally wasn’t the international term it is now, it was something that gay people abroad probably knew about, but definitely not something your average bigot in a rural central-European village yelled at you when he thought your pants where too fancy to make him feel secure in his fragile masculinity. So i was under the impression that people still alive today just had no direct, hurtful experience with it like with other slurs.

            • Historical_General@lemm.ee
              1·
              1 year ago

              assimilationists

              I’m sure you’ll find them in the anglosphere too. I’ve seen a few threads of twitter. Possibly just Germans though, since they tend to have good English.