• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Is the statement that there is no objective truth objectively true? If so, there is some objective truth, and the statement is false. Like I said, it’s a self-defeating claim.

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        1 month ago

        What does set theory have to do with absolute truth? And if there is no absolute truth, how can any aspect of set theory be valid?

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              1 month ago

              I can, but I won’t. This is no longer an entertaining use of my time. I’m not going to explain the implications of Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem to someone with such a shaky grasp of epistemology. Pearls before swine.

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                1 month ago

                It’s odd that you won’t explain your epistemology to someone, but you will claim moral/intellectual superiority in not explaining an actually important point after debating them on the hypothetical sentience of the sun for over a day. You can throw all the names of theorems you want at a conversation. but the simple fact is that “there is no absolute truth” is a self-contradictory statement. Any philosophy you build on such a fragile foundation is a non-starter.

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                  1 month ago

                  Which is precisely why I’m not going to explain epistemology to someone who has repeatedly demonstrated poor logical methodology.

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                    1 month ago

                    I can’t control what you believe at the end of the day, but I will encourage you not to believe in claims that are fundamental logical contradictions. You deserve better than that from yourself. In any case, have a good rest of the week.