• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Long term the cost will also be paid by us. Prices won’t go down when we start producing locally.

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      6 hours ago

      Compared to importing for 30% extra? The only reason that would happen is some mass market collusion. The prices will go higher, then manufacturing picks up locally, driving prices down, lower than it was previously - since you don’t need to ferry them across an ocean. Foreign goods would be 30% more expensive.

      At least that’s the theory / how it is supposed to work. In reality, probably a shitton of issues, a new great depression and not much more manufacturing potential as a result. There will be tarrifs on the US too, needlessly closing off trade both ways.

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        44 minutes ago

        True. There will likely be retaliatory tariffs hurting our exports too. But our exports are smaller than our imports currently, so currently it doesn’t hurt us as much.

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        5 hours ago

        Your first paragraph assumes that labour costs are the same in both markets and that there is little development or tooling cost to setting up that manufacturing base locally. Both are false, and both of those are really the reason overseas manufacturing is a thing in the first place.

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          5 hours ago

          Depends on what you are manufacturing. Making shit with mills, CNC, lathes, injection molding? That’s not a problem. CMM, EDM and very precise CNC? Yeah, that needs a machine with a high upfront cost. It all depends on if you are able to get customers and if you have the raw resources / the raw resources don’t price you out of existence. Overseas manufacture is worth it because it used to be cheap labor costs. You had to fix a lot of things, but it was still cheaper than making it 100% in house. Then China started becomming less competetive and it still was cheaper, but barely. Add onto it a 30% tarrif and the entire equation changes.

          Again, it probably will be painful. But we will have to see.

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      5 hours ago

      The expected benefits don’t include prices going down. They include:

      • overall purchasing power going up
      • more military independence
      • more political independence
      • staying ahead in the AI race
      • more Americans get to spend their days building things