• deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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    28 days ago

    It’s not for “management positions”, rather it’s for management, so they can dismiss highly skilled and highly paid employees and replace them with either shitty AI or cheaper foreign outsourcing.

    E.g. a top tier software engineer in NZ is paid a hell of a lot more than the equally top tier software engineer in Bangladesh… and without the “burden” of employment law.

    This is just more anti-employee crap. It’s set at a level high enough that the vast bulk of employees in NZ will never ever be affected.

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      28 days ago

      Oh, yeah, 100% that too.

      But also, 180k is coincidentally the around the salary of middle management positions within government.

      I would not be surprised if the 180k number drops should National get a second term.

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        I would not be surprised if the 180k number drops should National get a second term.

        100% It’ll drop to zero. Especially after a public sector purge.

        Having worked in the public sector with deep management structures (and now working in a very shallow management structure) … I still can’t see what value many of those deep positions provided.

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      27 days ago

      Well, unless it has no ratcheting clause to have that rise in line with inflation etc. It won’t take all that long before that starts to impact people who see themselves as being quite middle-class* - particularly white collar workers in Auckland / Wellington where housing costs are very high.

      *Note i’m well aware that their version of middle class doesn’t align with historic NZ perceptions. But also the amount of high-end inherited wealth and the growing disparity between the top 10% and the rest means its also not entirely unrealistic to put a single income family with one earner at $180k as “middle-class” in Auckland.

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        27 days ago

        its also not entirely unrealistic to put a single income family with one earner at $180k as “middle-class” in Auckland.

        That family couldn’t afford to buy a median priced house in Auckland.

        That people keep harping on about “six figure salaries” is stupid. I am reasonably sure that phrase dates from the 50’s, and somehow people just don’t want to understand inflation.

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          27 days ago

          Indeed, which is another illustration of the problem with the modern economy - a combined income of $200k plus would be needed and that’s likely only achieved with both partners in a relationship working near full time as well.