Authorities in Ohio say they will release body camera footage of a fatal police shooting of a pregnant Black woman.

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    Young was among them, according to the employee who pointed her out sitting in her car in the parking lot. She allegedly took bottles of alcohol without paying.

    Getting drunk during pregnancy is how the “Greatest Generation” created the boomers.

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        I made no such conclusion.

        I mean, the facts are pretty straightforward: she used a deadly weapon (a motor vehicle) to attack pedestrians (the officers).

        Had she simply submitted to the initial arrest, she would have faced a fine and some community service. Shoplifters rarely face anything more serious than that. In an attempt to avoid those minimal consequences, she chose to escalate from a simple property crime to assault with a deadly weapon. The best she could hope for would have been a lengthy prison sentence.

        No, the case is straightforward and boring. The only interesting factor I found in it was fetal alcohol syndrome.

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          I mean, the facts are pretty straightforward: she used a deadly weapon (a motor vehicle) to attack pedestrians (the officers).

          According to the police.

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              The one that was released after your comment. You believe anything anyone who shoots a black person says.

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                Trust, but verify. I believed them when they said they had a video, and I believed them when they provided a written description of the video. They would look extraordinarily bad to be caught lying about something so easy to verify, so I saw little reason not to trust.

                It fit the pattern: individual gets caught committing a minor criminal act, but rather than facing the music and accepting the slap on the wrist punishment, they instead choose to escalate to the point of endangering people, and then Pikachu-face when they get shot.

                What does her race have to do with this case?

                Did “being black” stop her from hearing or understanding the officer calmly ordering her to get out of the car? Did “being black” prevent her from seeing the other officer in front of her vehicle? Did “being black” force her to put the car in gear and depress the accelerator?

                I’ll save my outrage for cases like Breonna Taylor, Philando Castile, George Floyd, and other actual victims of police abuse. I have no sympathy for someone who would endanger lives to avoid facing minimal and deserved consequences for their own criminal actions.

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                  Witness states she put down the bottles before she left the store. The description of the video states she accelerated towards an officer. The video shows an officer step in front of the slow rolling vehicle. He even takes a step forward right before he jumps on the hood. He was also able to safely get away from the slow moving vehicle after he fired a shot, something that he could have done before choosing to end a life

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                    Witness states she put down the bottles before she left the store.

                    Whether she did or did not take the bottles is completely irrelevant to the shooting. A complaining witness claimed she had; officers had sufficient cause to conduct a stop and investigate that complaint.

                    The description of the video states she accelerated towards an officer. The video shows an officer step in front of the slow rolling vehicle.

                    The video shows an officer stepped in front of a stopped vehicle. That vehicle was later driven toward the officer. The description is accurate; your claim is not.

                    Pedestrians have the right-of-way over vehicles. Even if she was moving when he stepped in front of her, she was obligated to stop, both under traffic laws, and per the lawful instructions given by the officers. She was not justified in driving toward the officer.

                    She escalated from being suspected of shoplifting to committing assault with a deadly weapon.

                    He was also able to safely get away from the slow moving vehicle after he fired a shot, something that he could have done before choosing to end a life

                    That might be relevant if he had a “duty to retreat” from the assault. Do you believe he had a legal obligation to retreat? If so, under what legal theory do you believe he acquired that obligation?

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                  What does her race have to do with this case?

                  It’s the only reason you believed the police before they released the video.

                  I’ll save my outrage for cases like Breonna Taylor, Philando Castile, George Floyd.

                  As though you don’t have excuses for why each of them had it coming too.

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                    It’s the only reason you believed the police before they released the video.

                    No. I believed their easily verifiable description of the events.

                    As though you don’t have excuses for why each of them had it coming too.

                    I’m more pissed off about each of them than you are. Castile in particular.

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        This isn’t a left/right issue. The divide here is between people who have learned the laws governing the use of force, and people who haven’t. The problem is that the cops are in the first camp, and the people being killed (and the people outraged at them being killed) are all in the second.

        The only viable solution to this problem is to broadly teach these laws to people before they decide whether to act a fool.