• Harvey656@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    This is a conversation about steam, the platform not Gabe. Yes, he is a billionaire, yes that makes him shitty, but guess what? Steam is a fantastic service for the end user, and that’s what matters.

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      12 days ago

      If they charged less.fpr the platform, they’d still be raking in more than they can spend while also not taking an extra 20% out of game development budgets versus the competition.

      Bad companies can make good products.

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        12 days ago

        I don’t know where you got lost with:

        As a consumer I’m more concerned about Epic’s anti-consumer practices than what they are paying devs.

        Talking about how much they could charge devs does not change my experience as a consumer. It does not provide a compelling argument for me to use a service that does noticeably make things worse for the consumer.

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          11 days ago

          You think Valve taking an extortionate amount of the budget doesn’t affect you as a consumer?

          Games have budgets. With Valve taking as much money as the actual development budget for many games, the end product is significantly impacted. Games are regularly released late while missing features and so buggy as to not work. The extra 18% of the gross taken up by Valve versus EGS could be used to put more resources into the actual game.

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              11 days ago

              EGS charges 12%. That’s what makes the market leader the bad guy.

              At least Xbox provides a platform and Walmart and Gamestop provide physical products at physical locations.

              Steam doesn’t have those expenses. And they also have exclusive titles, just like EGS.

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                11 days ago

                Walmart and GameStop provide a physical place, that’s it. The Developer sends them the physical product.

                Steam provides unlimited downloads, user forums, automatic updates, remote play, user reviews, Steam workshop etc…
                None of these other stores provide these things.

                Maybe Epic should charge more than 12% and invest that money in improving their client, or at least do that instead of wasting it on exclusivity deals. Then maybe I as a consumer will give a shit about Epic.