This is such a bad take with literally no evidence to support it. Ignore all the people telling you exactly why they didnt vote for Harris, and simply proclaim confidently that it must be racism and sexism. Now I am in no way denying that those things exist in the US, but theres literally no reason to believe thats why she lost. Biden was polling terribly, and people wanted him out, because of his age and policies, despite his maleness and whiteness. People want bernie because of his policies, despite his oldness. Literally no one has ever said “i didnt vore for kamala because shes a black woman” but you think you can invent this justification for her losing despite all evidence to the contrary, so that the democratic party doesnt have to do an ounce of self reflection or adjust their policy positions at all.
This is such a bad take with literally no evidence to support it. Ignore all the people telling you exactly why they didnt vote for Harris
No, I’m not ignoring them. I’m calling them out for the bullshit excuses they are.
Explain to me how any of it makes sense. Explain how you say you don’t support the Gaza genocide, so therefore will allow the guy who promises to genocide harder and faster to return to power.
Explain to me how you disagree with Harris’ position on immigration, then turn around and allow the guy who’s entire policy is “just deport the brown people” to return to power.
Explain how you’re upset about the state of the economy, so you’ll allow a man who wants to gut social safety nets so he can give more tax cuts to the wealthy, impose tarrifs that will cause prices to skyrocket, and hired a man who proudly proclaims his intentions to impose even more hardship (his own words) on poor people.
Explain what makes Liz Cheney different from literally every other Republican politician – including her own father – that either openly endorsed Harris or at least spoke out against Trump. Hundreds of Republicans. Nobody said a god damned word until Liz Cheney – the one Republican politician, remember, who sacrificed her own career to speak out against him while the rest of them ultimately fell in line and supported Trump, which many continue to do to this day now that he’s about to return to the WH. Suddenly, she was the bridge too far. I wonder what separated her from all of the other guys in the GOP that also endorsed her. Guess we’ll never know…
Explain how the voting base was against an old white guy until he stepped aside and endorsed a black woman. And now they’re saying that they’d have voted for an even older white guy. Funny how age suddenly stopped being an issue.
How many years have people been asking Republicans to grow a spine and stand up to Trump? And the instant that they decided to do so, you take a giant shit on them and sink Harris’ career for associating with them? How the fuck does that make sense? If that’s the way you’re going to treat people who actually reached across the aisle, you can’t be surprised when the rest of them suddenly have very short arms.
And before you say it, no, I’m not a Cheney fan and disagree with her on about 99.9999% of policy issues. But Cheney herself wasn’t up for re-election, nor were her policies on any ballot anywhere. She was basically there in a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of way, trying to tell people to vote for Harris because the alternative was exponentially worse.
Because for all the people who keep downvoting me, not a single one is willing to answer the question of how allowing Trump to return to power was better in any conceivable way. And if you stayed home, that doesn’t absolve you of guilt because you stayed home knowing damn well that it was essentially the same thing.
Youre a fucking idiot apparently because people have explained these things. Firstly i dont think trump is better, but some people refuse to stand by and watch the democrats constantly move right with no consequences. Literally for like 60 years theyve been saying ‘this is the most important election of our lives, vote for the lesser of two evils’. Hunter s thompson wrote about it in fear and loathing on the campaign trail. Like how do you not see the pattern. Until theres an actual viable progressive choice, a lot of people are just fed up with the bullshit. If allowing trump to gain power causes some reform to the democratic party or allows a viable third party alternative to rise then it probably will be worth it. Also i am not american, and probably would have voted for harris but i would have complained about her SHITTY FUCKING POLICIES the whole time. All of you people who were defending her endlessly despite every bad move she made are responsible for trump. Noone was upset that republicans were standing up against trump. They were upset that the democrats tried to become republucans in order to beat him. Also explaining why the vast majority of people who arent on lemmy didnt like harris is not the same as saying you voted for trump or think he would be better. Keep fucking coping and licking kamalas boots though, dont use any critical thinking at all, just keep screaming RACIST at people who arent even listening.
This is such a bad take with literally no evidence to support it. Ignore all the people telling you exactly why they didnt vote for Harris, and simply proclaim confidently that it must be racism and sexism. Now I am in no way denying that those things exist in the US, but theres literally no reason to believe thats why she lost. Biden was polling terribly, and people wanted him out, because of his age and policies, despite his maleness and whiteness. People want bernie because of his policies, despite his oldness. Literally no one has ever said “i didnt vore for kamala because shes a black woman” but you think you can invent this justification for her losing despite all evidence to the contrary, so that the democratic party doesnt have to do an ounce of self reflection or adjust their policy positions at all.
No, I’m not ignoring them. I’m calling them out for the bullshit excuses they are.
Explain to me how any of it makes sense. Explain how you say you don’t support the Gaza genocide, so therefore will allow the guy who promises to genocide harder and faster to return to power.
Explain to me how you disagree with Harris’ position on immigration, then turn around and allow the guy who’s entire policy is “just deport the brown people” to return to power.
Explain how you’re upset about the state of the economy, so you’ll allow a man who wants to gut social safety nets so he can give more tax cuts to the wealthy, impose tarrifs that will cause prices to skyrocket, and hired a man who proudly proclaims his intentions to impose even more hardship (his own words) on poor people.
Explain what makes Liz Cheney different from literally every other Republican politician – including her own father – that either openly endorsed Harris or at least spoke out against Trump. Hundreds of Republicans. Nobody said a god damned word until Liz Cheney – the one Republican politician, remember, who sacrificed her own career to speak out against him while the rest of them ultimately fell in line and supported Trump, which many continue to do to this day now that he’s about to return to the WH. Suddenly, she was the bridge too far. I wonder what separated her from all of the other guys in the GOP that also endorsed her. Guess we’ll never know…
Explain how the voting base was against an old white guy until he stepped aside and endorsed a black woman. And now they’re saying that they’d have voted for an even older white guy. Funny how age suddenly stopped being an issue.
How many years have people been asking Republicans to grow a spine and stand up to Trump? And the instant that they decided to do so, you take a giant shit on them and sink Harris’ career for associating with them? How the fuck does that make sense? If that’s the way you’re going to treat people who actually reached across the aisle, you can’t be surprised when the rest of them suddenly have very short arms.
And before you say it, no, I’m not a Cheney fan and disagree with her on about 99.9999% of policy issues. But Cheney herself wasn’t up for re-election, nor were her policies on any ballot anywhere. She was basically there in a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of way, trying to tell people to vote for Harris because the alternative was exponentially worse.
Because for all the people who keep downvoting me, not a single one is willing to answer the question of how allowing Trump to return to power was better in any conceivable way. And if you stayed home, that doesn’t absolve you of guilt because you stayed home knowing damn well that it was essentially the same thing.
Youre a fucking idiot apparently because people have explained these things. Firstly i dont think trump is better, but some people refuse to stand by and watch the democrats constantly move right with no consequences. Literally for like 60 years theyve been saying ‘this is the most important election of our lives, vote for the lesser of two evils’. Hunter s thompson wrote about it in fear and loathing on the campaign trail. Like how do you not see the pattern. Until theres an actual viable progressive choice, a lot of people are just fed up with the bullshit. If allowing trump to gain power causes some reform to the democratic party or allows a viable third party alternative to rise then it probably will be worth it. Also i am not american, and probably would have voted for harris but i would have complained about her SHITTY FUCKING POLICIES the whole time. All of you people who were defending her endlessly despite every bad move she made are responsible for trump. Noone was upset that republicans were standing up against trump. They were upset that the democrats tried to become republucans in order to beat him. Also explaining why the vast majority of people who arent on lemmy didnt like harris is not the same as saying you voted for trump or think he would be better. Keep fucking coping and licking kamalas boots though, dont use any critical thinking at all, just keep screaming RACIST at people who arent even listening.