• Aliveelectricwire [it/its]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    A tankie is a hardline ML in your opinion yes? Did you know most “tankies” read theory to better understand the world and are definitely more knowledgeable than “socialists” (by which you mean libs who aren’t actually socialist like yourself)

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      10 months ago

      No, but one of the top posts in the “tankiverse” recently was saying that places like North Korea are the bastions of freedom.

      More nuanced takes on communism, etc are done instances other than Hexbear and Lemmygrad.

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          10 months ago

          Why do you act like any one right of Karl Marx must be a dunce who blindly supports the global status quo?

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                  10 months ago

                  I’m not really in the business of sourcing things to users from an instance that is basically a Sealioning factory.

                  Ultimately, I will get told I don’t understand economics until I’ve read all three volumes of Das Kapital. Ironically, it’s no different that libertarians saying you don’t understand economics unless you’ve read the works of Milton Friedman, or more importantly, Ayn Rand.

                  • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                    10 months ago

                    “When you make a contentious claim and someone asks for a source that’s them doing a logical fallacy”

                    Ultimately, I will get told I don’t understand economics until I’ve read all three volumes of Das Kapital. Ironically, it’s no different that libertarians saying you don’t understand economics unless you’ve read the works of Milton Friedman, or more importantly, Ayn Rand.

                    Okay, except as part of the background of growing up in the imperial core youre already exposed to their ideology so you don’t need to read it. You’re not really exposed to Marxism here and you need a background to understand it.

                    I agree capital isn’t the best starting point but for some reason anti-communists love trying to argue economics when they know nothing about economics, so thats when capital generally gets brought up and its become a meme from that.

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          10 months ago

          A tankie is a supporter of an authoritarian country that either is, or presents itself as, a left wing.

          Pretty unambiguous definition.

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              10 months ago

              Jails dissidents without a modicum of due process.

              Yeah it’s a problem in a lot of countries, welcome to the “status quo”.

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                  10 months ago

                  I agree. This is why I caution more nuanced takes on economics. A lot of people on Hexbear think a revolution occuring in the US is going to look like 1917, but really it’s going to be more like 1923. Take a look at the closest we have been to a “revolution” since 1776.

                  • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                    10 months ago

                    The question is just how bad things are going to get before socialism happens. It might get to fascists killing people like me in the streets beforehand, but fascism will not resolve the contradictions of capitalism and will not prevent the inevitability of socialism.