Summary
In 2024, conservative-leaning online spaces emphasizing traditional masculinity gained mainstream influence, driven by figures like Joe Rogan and trends like the “tradwife” movement.
Platforms like X, under Elon Musk’s ownership, became hubs for anti-“woke” sentiment, while podcasting further amplified right-wing ideas.
This cultural shift mirrored Trump’s election victory and reflected backlash against progressive gender norms.
Though some view these spaces as promoting traditional values, critics warn of growing misogyny and radicalization in the “manosphere.”
The rise of such spaces highlights deepening political polarization online.
You’re essentially blaming a person who isn’t very bright for not being very bright. I hope you realize that.
That’s not how the law works, you get charged regardless if you’re dumb or smart if you break the law.
You might get a lighter sentence but stupid people doing crime is still crime.
Jesus Christ, how many fucking times?
Sorry, I guess I took your word “blame” to mean it isn’t her fault and hence my comment about legality.
But let me answer from an emotional perspective:
I don’t think people should feel bad for her cause she isn’t a teenager, an adult should know better that there is no free lunch. Trying to get rich off of your 15 mins of fame won’t be honest work.
She’s 21. The same age millions of Americans are when they’re tricked into high-interest loans and credit cards with massive APRs. Plus payday lending.
I feel bad for all of them despite them being adults that “should know better that there is no free lunch.” Why wouldn’t I feel bad for her? She’s a victim of the same fucking system that raises every American child to believe that they’ll be rich and successful one day, they just have to do whatever the fuck they can to get there.
She didn’t go to college. She worked in a factory before she got well-known. Since when do we expect people like her to be educated enough to understand a crypto scam just because they’re over 18? She probably didn’t even know what crypto was the day she signed the contract. Why would she? All she knew was people were going to make her rich and when was she ever told to not trust such people? She was told the opposite all of her life just by living in America.
And I am astounded people can’t see that.
Again, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have any responsibility here. Ignorance is no excuse. But that also doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve any sympathy.
I do appreciate that you’re coming from a place of empathy.
But since there is a divide in perspective, maybe I can clarify.
Most people draw the line somewhere for agency. By this argument, even evil politicians “deserve empathy”.
Here is an alternative take:
Empathy is an emotion made by evolution for the benefit of society. It’s good to feel empathy because it helps guide people back to good morality.
That becomes ineffective when they refuse to listen. Imo that’s where society correctly draws the line on agency and empathy.
If people tell you, hey, what your doing is not right but you want your payday anyway, it benefits society more to put social pressure on the individual (judge them) instead of empathize with them.
So right now, she is so far gone that having empathy is not gonna change her, collectively disapproving of her has a better chance, hence the judgement.
So I don’t disagree with empathy, I just think you got to draw the line somewhere.
Who told her that? Because I’m saying no one told her that. At least I didn’t see anyone tell her that.
I did see a lot of slobbering over her and/or mocking her because she was frank and open about her sexuality though, along with a lot of people doing everything they could to cash in on the fame of someone who was given nothing more than an American grade school education with which to know when and how to use her agency.
Apparently none of that is worth discussing or worth any pity because she committed a crime.
And I have to say that it is an interesting contrast to many other people who commit crimes that do end up hurting other people and yet still get sympathy for other reasons. There are worse people in prison right now who have gotten sympathy. I remember a lot of sympathy for Richard Reid because of the path he was led down and because he was clearly not smart enough to not be tricked into trying to blow up a fucking plane.
I’ve also heard a lot of sympathy for one of the Boston Bombers because “he was just a kid and he didn’t know what he was doing.” He was 20 years old. He killed six people and injured close to 300 others.
But this lady? Fuck her. No sympathy whatsoever for anything that has ever happened to her. She is a real criminal mastermind.
I mean, she literally got told by the entire internet that she had her 15 mins of fame and she should move on when she started a podcast.
Maybe your in different Internet spaces than me, but I fully remember people saying she should move on and live a normal life.
I judge her because she wants a get rich quick scheme when the rest of us are doing day jobs. She seems shallow and willing to do anything to be rich and famous.
I’m not going to respond further because I’ve already told you why people judge her. It’s a subjective anyway, hence why you have the right to not judge her the same as others do to do otherwise.
Maybe not in her internet spaces. How many of those people had any sort of contact with her.
It certainly is, which is why apparently someone who kills six people is more deserving of sympathy for exactly the same reasons she apparently is not.
if you don’t know what are you doing, maybe you shouldn’t until you know, or at least do a double take
Again, you’re blaming someone who isn’t very bright for not being very bright.
Half of humanity is of below average intelligence.
shoulda talked tuah lawyer, reinventing 100 year old crimes doesn’t come with a get free out of jail card if you think you’ve figured it out for the first time
I already said that if she is found to be liable for her part in the crypto scam, she should be tried for it.
Is the concept of feeling pity for someone even if they commit a crime so foreign to so many people here?
cryptobros (gender nonspecific) burn our collective future for a quick buck, why tf should feel anyone feel pity for them
Do you really think that’s what she is? Do you think if you asked her to explain anything about crypto to you that she could?
i fail to see how that’s any better
Indeed you don’t see how it is any better to be someone who ends up committing a crime because they are being taken advantage of and someone who commits a crime because they are knowingly doing something to make the world worse.
And that also makes the world worse. Deciding that a crime is a crime and once committed, you can’t feel any sympathy for the criminal.
You’re getting downvoted, but you’re speaking straight facts. The average Lemming is smug about their perceived above average intelligence and believes anyone below that to be deserving of less. The comment you responded to gives off “If you’re homeless just rent a house” vibes.
Speak your truth brother 🗣️
Seems like calling her not very bright WAS an average lemming being smug about their perceived intelligence.
It really bothers me that many people here seem to think that either not being smart or committing crimes means no one should feel bad for you for any reason.
It’s the sort of total lack of recognition of humanity I have come to expect from the right, but it seems to be spilling over.
Unfortunately this isn’t a partisan thing. Dispassionate people exist on both sides of the spectrum. You’d at least think the left would be more considerate about this issue though
Don’t need to be very bright to agree to x amount of money in exchange for putting your name on something
And yet people get scammed every single day in just that manner.
Tbh isn’t all memecoin a scam? There’s potential to make money sure, but only if you’re an insider.