• w3dd1e@lemm.ee
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    15 hours ago

    Fully agree in an ideal world.

    But in practice, if men, for example, are the only people hired, they tend to be the only people who get experience, making them always the most qualified for the job.

    Extra Facts: For jobs behind the camera, there are something like, only 13% of women employed in the film industry. Not all industries are equal so your through fits really well in some places and less so in others.

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      For jobs behind the camera, there are something like, only 13% of women employed in the film industry.

      That doesn’t necessarily imply sexism at all, note. If it turns out women are just 6 times less likely than men to want to have these jobs, then this percentage would be 13% in a perfect non-sexist world. (Though 13% is concerningly low; the percentage of women that go into computer science is around 20-25% and that’s one of the strongest effects. Plausibly the remaining 1.5-2x difference here is due to sexism; I can buy filmmaking being one of the most sexist industries).

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        I can’t speak for the whole industry, but I’m a person who wanted to make movies and started out as a film major. When you walk into a room as a student and it’s all men, you want to quit because you feel like you aren’t supposed to be there.

        As a developer now, I still feel this way, but I’m a grown up now and I just ignore that feeling.

        I think women want to do these jobs but they feel like they aren’t allowed to, or are directly told they aren’t allowed to.

        13% is the average of all behind the camera jobs. Composers, cinematographers, writers, directors. There are more women in writing positions and there are very few female composers.

        Geena Davis Institute and Women in Film if it’s something you’d like to know about.

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          Oh also, Geena Davis Institute does a lot of great research on how men and boys are portrayed in film too. It’s not just about women’s problems.

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        If it turns out women are just 6 times less likely than men to want to have these jobs,

        Suggesting that women don’t want to work in a fully bro-culture environment isn’t really the best arguement you could make.