I care about my kid’s future, so therefore I don’t care about kids in the global south? LOL Wut? I’d love to see you walk through the logic on that one.

Long term the American empire getting knocked down a peg so they’re not the only game in town is going to be a good thing for the world.

Well, that kind of depends on who takes America’s place. Right now it looks more likely to be China or India instead of local control. Local control is what I’d like to see, but I don’t see that as any more or less likely if SHTF in America. If anything, the people who just took control are going to go even harder at extracting every bit of wealth from the globe as they possibly can.

your kids are going to be fuckwits if stability and long term collapse is better to you than short term collapse and maybe picking up the pieces.

So much to parse here. On the topic of lead levels, it would have to be me (and you) who are the “fuckwits”, since atmospheric lead levels have fallen by over 97% since 1977. The choice between long term and short term collapse is a false one, and America has chosen reform in the past and can do so again.

You know how we get a party that’s not dem or repub? By shit hitting the fucking fan.

Is that the objective? Your goal is a change of branding? My goals are related to policy, and I don’t give a flying fuck about political parties. How exactly do you think you can prevent the replacement party from becoming just as corrupt as the Democrats and Republicans are? I don’t even think you can perfectly vet an alternative presidential candidate, never-mind the thousands of offices you would need to take at both the state and federal levels. We’ve moved on here from a SHTF strategy to a third party strategy, but that’s hardly a move towards sanity.

There is no shortcut for organizing and educating voters. If you can do that, then you can fix the existing parties. If you can’t do that, then even a replacement party will end up controlled by oligarchs. Both organizing and educating are significantly more difficult under autocratic regimes, which is why your “let it burn” type strategy has never worked anywhere.

And China DOES have the whole “lifting the most people out of poverty in the last 30 years by a huge margin” track record.

Well, they did shift from being a developing country to being a middle-income country. Falling poverty rates are what happens in every country when it becomes industrialized. China industrialized quickly, so their poverty rate fell quickly. Still, it was a big accomplishment, but I don’t think it says what you want it to say. Their poverty rate of 13% is still higher than the US rate of 11%. China ranks better than the US in overall wealth inequality, but isn’t nearly as good as it used to be when poverty rates were higher.