Despite what Canada’s nation hating extreme right would have you believe.

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    Extra-judicial killings? Industrialized rape? Daily mass murders? Famine?

    You listed a bunch of first world problems. It’s hard to imagine what hardship truly is when you live in the second best country in the world.

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      Extra-judicial killings?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality_against_Indigenous_Canadians

      Industrialized rape?

      https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/sexual-abuse-in-the-military-soldiers-speak-of-systemic-problems-in-a-toxic-culture-1.5654309
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/opp-officer-sexual-assault-jason-redmond-1.6797839
      https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/newfoundland-police-officer-found-guilty-of-on-duty-rape-once-again-seeking-bail-1.6494845
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/quebec-investigation-alleged-abuse-aboriginal-women-1.3577527

      Daily mass murders?

      Setting an awfully low bar with this one.

      Famine?

      Any year now, given climate change.

      It’s hard to imagine what hardship truly is when you live in the second best country in the world.

      Your own privilege within the country is just dripping from your posts.

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        Canada also kept slaves 150 years ago.

        How many of the people pissing and moaning on Lemmy have experienced any of those things?

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      Its all relative, and clearly you aren’t having the hardships that a lot of our country is currently enduring.

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        I have been places that makes me appreciate Canada for what it truly is.

        I have perspective.

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          No - you’re a well off white guy who doesn’t experience the bad parts of Canada.

          Broadly - sure - Canada is awesome.
          Sprinkle in some nuance and the pimples are obvious if you open your eyes.

          There is always room for improvement.

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            I’m a socialist who had spent time in truly horrible places. I have perspective. Canada has problems, yes, but they are first world problems.

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              Its not fair to dismiss the problems of the people who lead very difficult lives in this country because someone on the other side of the planet has it worse there.

              Where is your perspective on that?

              “Sorry, I know you have an unhappy and difficult life but you should just learn to be greatful because I saw people over yonder who have a different kind of difficult life.”

              You keep saying people need perspective, I think you do. You look at this country through rose coloured glasses.

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                I don’t dismiss the legitimate complaints of people who live in Canada. There are problems. I’ve said that repeatedly throughout these comments. What I’m saying is that Canada isn’t any of the things the neo-Nazis and the tankies say it is. It isn’t a dictatorship. It isn’t turning into a third world shithole. Our Prime Minister isn’t a Marxist and neither was his father. Canada is a great country and a great place to live. Wealth inequality is a big fucking problem. Corruption is a big fucking problem. The erosion of workers rights is a big fucking problem. Capitalism has run its course and it’s time for a change. That doesn’t mean that Canada is a bad place to live and the people who say it is is are entitled, whiney idiots.

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                  Our Prime Minister isn’t a Marxist and neither was his father.

                  Well… the Canadian media did spent an inordinate amount of time trying to prove the Trudeau was not the love child of a self-proclaimed Marxist, which was quite strange as it makes absolutely no difference who his farther is.

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                    I’m not sure that it was the media that did that. I suspect that it was the alt-right media (“alt” being their preferred pronoun instead of the more accurate “extreme”).

                    And…who is father is only matters to the right. No one else gives a shit about what other people are doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

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                  I agree wholeheartedly with all of that. If you’ve stated those things throughout these comments, for some reason I cannot see them, so I apologize for harping on you.

                  I just disagree that it is the 2nd best country in the world to live in. Where it accurately lands I cannot say, but #2 is not it. And that’s okay. I still love this country.

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                    I just disagree that it is the 2nd best country in the world to live in. Where it accurately lands I cannot say, but #2 is not it. And that’s okay. I still love this country.

                    I do as well. I think it’s the best country in the world to live in. I’ve been lots of places, many high on that list and many very low on that list, and I would not choose to live in any of them instead of Canada.