I was there, I saw the thread. @TheDude, did you? It was pretty strongly in favour. Do we really need to keep waiting around to see if an instance administrated by a guy who wants to declare “cis” a slur is going to turn out okay?

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 for context.

      • averagedrunk@lemmy.mlEnglish
        191·
        2 years ago

        Why is it when a place claims to be for free thought and expression it’s always nonsense or harmful? Why does it have to be either fascist garbage, conspiracies that make absolutely no sense, or “artistic” pictures of children (photos or drawn)?

        • Sami@lemmy.zipEnglish
          20·
          2 years ago

          Because no other place tolerates them so they flock to any that do. That’s unfortunate reality of prioritizing ‘free speech’ over everything on a public internet space. You invite the baggage that comes with that.

          • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            106·
            2 years ago

            Absolute free speech shouldn’t exist. If that were the case, we’d be giving a platform to the worst of the worst. The most vile, hateful speech should not be allowed to exist in a society that claims to want safety, respect for all, and prosperity.

            The idea of absolute free speech requires the tolerance of hate, which allows the intolerant to drive out ideas that don’t align with theirs. See here, the Paradox of Tolerance.

        • Havoc8154@mander.xyzEnglish
          10·
          2 years ago

          Because reasonable moderation and common sense boundaries don’t prevent free thought and expression for most people. So the main people that look for “free speech” communities are wild extremists or people seeking illegal material.