• NSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    exarcheia and anabaptist sects come directly to mind, but you’ve just excluded them for some reason. it seems like no-true Scotsman to me.

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      9 hours ago

      exarcheia and anabaptist

      Do those guys build their own roads, pipes for water and heat, homes, bake bread, make drugs, provide healthcare? Or do they depend on external nation-states and their economy to exist?

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      13 hours ago

      It seems like a pretty good reason to exclude them, considering the criticism being discuss was specifically that they would inevitably decay in to a “might makes right” situation. Communities existing in a situation where police and courts would prevent someone from taking over by force disqualifies them from disproving this hypothesis.

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        4 hours ago

        there simply isn’t evidence of some causal mechanism by anarchist societies must decay. their hypothesis can’t be proven. I didn’t even know how it could be tested.

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          9 hours ago

          Why this mechanism has to be casual? Nation-states exist, just imagine existing state like Russia, China or America deciding to take over your anarchist society.

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          12 hours ago

          I’m not sure what you want exactly. Its pretty hard to prove a negative, but that does not make the inverse true.