• earphone843@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    Because the democrats aren’t the only ones who deserve the blame. Like I said, the democrats are to blame and the people who didn’t vote are to blame. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Many systems failed getting us to this point, but voting was the very last line of defense.

    I’m not trying to absolve the democrats for running a garbage campaign, but you’re trying to absolve the people who knew the consequences of their actions and chose to sit back and let it happen.

    Again, because the democrats didn’t give them a pony, they chose to let fascism happen, and now they’re trying to justify it.

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      21 hours ago

      “Didn’t give them a pony” and “didn’t stop genociding Palestinian children” are actually mutually exclusive concepts.

      I’m giving them a pass at what? They hold no institutional power, why kick down like some conservative? No I believe in holding power responsible.

      The nyt published this yesterday https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/us/politics/democrats-trump.html where top democrats admit they have nothing to offer voters, other than “not Trump.” It’s not giving them a pass to like try and imagine their perspective, based on actual research done by polling agencies, publications, as well as IRL conversations. I feel like you just want to feel better than others, to believe that the action you took made a difference, and maybe you need that justification to deal with the world.

      Especially since it was a good amount of bullying to vote against Trump by the democrats and their mouthpieces that caused people to be disaffected and stay home. So I agree there is plenty of blame to go around, but let’s not leave out one of the main culprits: people like you who make discourse toxic and muddy the waters with false framings of very important issues, because their leaders are incompetent nincompoops who can’t do anything but go to brunch and blame the left for every problem they created.

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        22 hours ago

        If your excuse for sitting out this election was because of the Palestinian genocide, you are a special kind of stupid. There was not a single option for this election that would have stopped it. Full stop.

        Harris and Biden may not have been ideal, but they weren’t going to actively make the situation worse like Trump. They were actually pushing for a ceasefire.

        Now, you’ll never get the chance to have a fair election again, because you can’t vote out fascism. Your tantrum cost you the country and it’s going to end with genocide here. Millions are going to suffer and die slow and painful deaths because you decided to stick it to the democrats.

        You can try to distance yourself from this as much as you want, but the only way for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing, and you did nothing and let evil triumph.

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          21 hours ago

          For the umpteenth time I voted, I never encouraged other people not to vote, I agree with the logic that says vote to keep trump out. How many times do in have to tell you people, I’m extremely politically active I am the opposite of “do nothing and let evil” do anything. I’m on keywiki, are you? I helped organize palestinian liberation groups because of my convictions. All you did was vote, which I also did, but I don’t spend the next 4 years using it against people. Its what I do on one day of political activity, and then I do other things as well.

          What have you organized since Trump came to power? I’ve been helping/working to distribute lit to immigrants, and set up an immigrant rights group in my city. So please spare me the sanctimonious strawman, please? I’m not what you think I am, clearly. Save your paragraphs for yourself, if you’re so determined to indict a hypocrite.

          Leave me alone now