• ameancow@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    19 hours ago

    Yes, I agree but it’s not really what I’m talking about. We just all need to take care to keep our platform healthy and on the right track lest we lose ground because we’re blind to nuance. A very common and human risk that has to be acknowledged so this doesn’t become just another equally performative, insufferable campaign that loses public support. It’s more important than ever right now as the tide of media is shifting right.

      • ameancow@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        18 hours ago

        well yeah, but you also don’t want to fall into the stereotype that the right always throws around and actually label people nazis for just not wanting to get involved, there is a difference and we shoot ourselves in the dick every time there’s some huge drama because some liberal doesn’t want to get involved or makes a crass joke and then a thousand tumbler teens accuse them of being Hiter incarnate.

        Be un-nuanced about condemning fascism. Just pick your targets correctly, otherwise we’re doing the same thing as when a con screams “think of the children” and uses emotional appeals to create mindless mob hysteria without logic or reason. We can fight strong and smart. Beware thought terminating cliches on both sides.

        • rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          17 hours ago

          It’s so easy to not be a Nazi though. Anyone can accuse me of being Hitler incarcerate, I’ll trash Hitler for being such a loser bitch he actually had to off himself because he couldn’t handle what a loser he was. I’ll trash talk Nazis from dawn to dusk for being such gross spineless turds they have to hide their faces when they go out in public.

          I don’t see any downsides here. The more people are accused of being a Nazi, the more we can humiliate and dogpile on Nazis, the less anyone feels inclined to think about being a Nazi. The concepts of Nazism should be associated with so much shame that no one ever wants to touch Nazism again.

          Seems like a big win to me.

          • ameancow@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            17 hours ago

            The more people are accused of being a Nazi, the more we can humiliate and dogpile on Nazis

            Okay now you played your hand.

            If you actually believe indiscriminate accusations are beneficial to a cause, you’re either as bad as them, or you’re just another goddamn bad-actor pretending to actually care. Or you’re a child with no real investment in this and you’re just saying shit for fun. Just get lost weirdo. We can be so much better than this.

            Nazism should be associated with so much shame that no one ever wants to touch Nazism again

            Yes, nobody is arguing this, your insistence on this point while obtusely ignoring the actual context here, that just calling anyone a nazi without evidence or reason just harms the left broadly.