• vandsjov@feddit.dk
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      They probably told people, however media and the people where busy watching the Trump freak show, and listening to all the lies about of how bad the Democrats are.

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      That is irrelevant. You don’t seem to understand the point I’m making. I’m saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.

      And knowing that there are so many American’s like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they’ll feel like they’re aligning with the “bad guys” if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).

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        Why is your criticism so heavily directed at voters? Voting for who you want is a fundamental part of democracy. You are spending so much energy criticizing voters but I haven’t seen an ounce of criticism for the actual party leadership. It is literally the job of the party leaders to create a platform that aligns with its voting base. They literally turned their back on their base in order to try to appeal to Trump voters with anti immigration policies. THEY HAD ADS TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THE WALL. Do you think MAYBE that has something to do with why the Democrats failed to get voters out to the polls?

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          I hate the democratic leadership as well. I can hate two groups at the same time. But I primarily hate them for losing to fascists and not taking the threat seriously. Much like I hate the non-voters for basically the same fucking reason.

          The democrats thought that appealing to moderate republicans and centrists would siphon votes from Trump. This was obviously a stupid idea and I cringed as they did so and hoped that it wouldn’t hurt them too bad in the polls. It obviously fucking did.

          The thing is, they more or less admitted so at this point that their strategy was dumb as fuck and that Sanders was right all along.

          There are still people who did not vote who are accelerationists, “apolitical”, or think “democrats and republicans are identical” and my spite and hatred of those people is so incredibly intense. I hope they get exactly what they did not vote against. I resent that I’ve put effort where they choose not to and now expect me to continue fucking fighting after they let the difficulty level explode and likely doom the planet to a scorching hellscape.

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        Why should people vote for a party that do not even want to resolve the most pressing issues that affect their daily lives?

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            To prevent fascists from taking over, we should elect corpos who will constantly push us on a rightward trajectory towards fascism.

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              Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That’ll show the fascists!

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            And what are the Democrats doing to prevent that? Offer Medicare for all? Increase federal wage? Increase taxes on the rich? Offer free college? Build social housing?

            “People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.”- Franklin Roosevelt

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            “The masses” do not think like this. They don’t even know what that word means except in a passing negative emotional reaction.

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        I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can’t say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say “Genocide is bad, and we won’t support it” and they wouldn’t. They are the baddies

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          I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys

          No I’m not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.

          And TBH, I don’t want to help stupid people if they’re going to keep dragging me into the mud. I’ve worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I’m done swimming up a waterfall.