• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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    13 hours ago

    The fact that you even had to ask illustrates my point

    There is more than one ongoing genocide, it’s just that the one in Palestine is the one the US is most obviously funding and supporting, which makes it relevant to USian politics.

    Finding out about genocide, and using as leverage in an election where the collapse of democracy is on the table are not even remotely similar.

    Finding out about genocide and being able to tell your representatives that you won’t vote them if they go on genociding people because that doesn’t represent you, seems pretty coherent and moral to me.

    suddenly you all cared so much that it was worth sacrificing your own country

    I’m not USian btw, I’m not sacrificing my own country. Arguably the ones sacrificing the country are the ones putting only unelectable candidates who run a campaign of genocide against literal fascists. If the Trump administration was so patently fascist and the Democrats, with full presidential power (and immunity as proven by Trump), did nothing to stop them, the fault is every bit as much in the Democrat camp as in the Republican.

    Refuse to act against fascists while in government -> run a campaign on genocide and the “most lethal armed forces in the world” with a non-electable candidate changed 3 months before the election -> lose elections to fascists -> blame the voters

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      13 hours ago

      If you’re not from here, then you’re not who I’m talking about and are just here to play contrarian.

      I don’t entertain contrarians.

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        12 hours ago

        I fucking wish US politics didn’t affect the rest of the world and they didn’t take up 99% of the discourse online, but sadly that’s the state of affairs, go to a general purpose instance like lemm.ee or like reddthat.com, browse by all federated instances, and tell me how many of the posts are about US politics.

        Ending conversations with people because they’re not from your country, when your country projects its power and its politics outwards overwhelmingly, isn’t productive

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          10 hours ago

          I’m ending the conversation because my entire point is about VOTERS. you’re not a fucking voter.

          Take your contrarian bullshit elsewhere.

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        12 hours ago

        It’s not contrarianism. If the best argument for voting Democrat was “they’re not Donald Trump” then they fucked up as a political party running a presidential campaign. Blame your horribly shitty Democratic party for being unelectable, not the people who weren’t convinced they should support them.

        The Democrats made a conscious, politically-motivated choice to pretend that Americans are not financially suffering to any significant degree (patently absurd), to parade around billionaires and buddy up with a Cheney of all people, to ooh rah about guns, the border, and the military, and to silence and shut out the voices of victims of genocide and their supporters while praising and platforming people who represent those committing said genocide. Gee, I wonder why they lost??? It’s a total mystery.

        The Democrats designed their campaign around reaching out to right wing voters, most of whom were always going to vote Republican because they always vote Republican, no matter whose name is on the card, and basically just told the left to go fuck themselves but to vote for them anyways.

        The Democrats are a joke and they have nobody to blame for their loss but themselves. But that’s not what Dem aligned mainstream media tells you, right? No, according to them you can never blame the rich and powerful people who failed to gain the support they needed to win. No it’s always the fault of other, regular people. Especially if they’re on the LEFT!!! No don’t blame the rich and powerful! Never blame the rich and powerful! Just blame the people screaming for a political party to actually represent them.