Like the kind that made you stop and think for a second about how stupid the person advocating it is. For me, it’s the classic “The biggest mistake in recent history was the Allies not pushing into Russia after the fall of Berlin.”

There’s just a level of imperialist arrogance and blood thirst in there that makes my skin crawl. The worst thing in human history was that the US didn’t immediately betray the Soviets and wipe them out until they were sure communism was done for.

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    I was at a prison abolition talk, and a kid I organize with was super argumentative with the speakers and just way out of line. He went so far as to use the term (likely in some kind of Freudian slip) “you people” to a panel of mostly black women. Just super weird and off putting.

    So I talked to him after the panel event and I was telling him about what the abolition movement is and what it isn’t. Like he gets cops are bad, how the state uses prisons for slave labor, all that. I was encouraging him to actually engage with the topic and consider these big concepts, but his take at the end was “prisons will be here to stay until every banker is behind bars”.

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        Right like tons of other mechanisms that keep our capitalist global economy running (however janky) aren’t centralized and facilitated by the state. I think AnCap types see the state as oppositional to them because they think it exists in spite of capital, not because of and exclusively for capital lol.

        The guy I was talking about isn’t a capitalist by any means but I think he definitely has a screw loose.

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            Oh man I wish I knew. He’s some kind of ecosocialist I guess? But definitely not an AnPrim. He’s mostly just an overstimulated young man who seems to have raw dogged theory on his own so he is just wildly inconsistent, undisciplined, and unhinged.

            He just graduated from college and has only been applying for jobs for maybe 4 weeks and asked me if he wasn’t getting any offers because he was “blacklisted for his political beliefs” and his “refusal to work for the imperial war machine”