Itā€™s so frustrating to want to put my feelings into words and failing. I feel so ignorant all the time, like I donā€™t know enough to speak on any issue. When I do speak, I feel like I always miss something, some detail of the bigger picture, and itā€™s always pointed out to me.

Thatā€™s a good thing, I suppose. To be able to speak your mind and be corrected and helped.

Iā€™m a patriot, I think, but Iā€™m not a nationalist. I love my country because itā€™s given me so much: a good education, good health services, good public transportā€¦ I love our language and our culture, our music both old and new, I love our rivers and the ocean that graces our shores, our forests, our food and our waterā€¦ I saw a TikTok a few days ago, actually where a Portuguese person talked about how, whenever they travel abroad, theyā€™re flabbergasted by how terrible foreign water is. Iā€™ve traveled all over Europe and can vouch for that. Foreign water sucks, itā€™s crazy. Portuguese tap water is better than Dutch bottled water. I love our people too, all of them.

However, whenever I express this, I feel like Iā€™m crazy. Itā€™s like thereā€™s only two kinds of people in this country: those that hate everything about it, and nationalist xenophobes. The people that see the good points of our country are not the ones that hate everything about it, by the wayā€¦ And I really donā€™t want to be associated with the xenophobes.

Partially, Iā€™m scared that Iā€™ll become like them. I donā€™t want to be hateful. It really does seem like the fascistic side of the deal really does have a monopoly on patriotism, though. Not patriotism, I suppose, it really is nationalism, but I find that thatā€™s a difference that only matters to the people that already know it, and thatā€™s not the everyman.

I saw this other TikTok about how the right has a narrative, and even if the narrative doesnā€™t make sense, itā€™s more than what the left has, so people flock to it in times of need. The right wins because the left fails to convinceā€¦ And I find that this might be a big issue. I see people talk about how thereā€™s a big focus on the bad sides of our historyā€”of which there are manyā€”instead of the good sides. I donā€™t knowā€¦ I feel like thatā€™s a talking point, but if it resonates, then it matters, I feel like. I mean, I know of our countryā€™s history, and I still love it. I want to make our country better, to improve it, but it seems that the narrative that appeals to this mysterious time from before when we swam in gold coins like uncle scrooge is what people care about. And of course, itā€™s all the browns in our midst. Itā€™s very frustratingā€¦

I donā€™t know. I feel like what Iā€™m saying doesnā€™t make that much sense, but Iā€™m kinda hoping that getting it out might help me wring out some meaning out of this digital rag drenched by my stream-of-consciousness.


I find it really frustrating that Lemmy doesnā€™t let you link posts or comments natively. You can like a comm with ! like in !gondaily@lemm.ee, you can link a user with @ like @gon@lemm.ee, but you canā€™t link a post or a comment. Iā€™ve looked into it a little, and I get why itā€™s not possible, but it sucks!

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    I feel so ignorant all the time, like I donā€™t know enough to speak on any issue. When I do speak, I feel like I always miss something, some detail of the bigger picture

    In my opinion thatā€™s a good thing, as long as it doesnā€™t stop you from communicating (for your benefit, but also for mine, because I enjoy reading your posts here :)) or acting on your ideas.

    Everyone always misses (some detail of) the bigger picture. Whatā€™s happening is that some people are more aware of that than others. I think you might like Daniel Kahnemanā€™s work on this subject.

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    Turn on the tap in Flint, Michigan or rural West Virginia and youā€™ll get a very different perspective on that clean water issue.

    How much of our country have you seen, geographically and socioeconomically? Because I think that solves about 99% of your confusion.

    If youā€™d like a genuine dialogue Iā€™m here for it, not trying to be belligerent. Have a good one regardless man.

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      How much of our country have you seen, geographically and socioeconomically?

      Not sure, to be honest. Iā€™ve been to every district. Iā€™ve been to both tiny villages and the biggest cities. Iā€™ve seen city poverty, and Iā€™ve seen rural poverty. I grew up in the middle of nowhere and have lived in cities for the last few years. I havenā€™t been to every town, obviously, but I find it really hard to quantify how much Iā€™ve seenā€¦

      In retrospect, this post was a little fatalistic. Thereā€™s plenty of people that feel like me, I think Iā€™m just in too much of an ecochamber online. I need to talk to people moreā€¦

      Turn on the tap in Flint, Michigan or rural West Virginia and youā€™ll get a very different perspective on that clean water issue.

      Iā€™ve never been to the US, but Iā€™ve heard about Flint, Michiganā€¦ Lead, right? Poison in the public water. Thatā€™s a horror film. Not sure how this is a different perspective on the clean water issue for me, thoughā€¦ I donā€™t exactly expect US public services to be good, you know? The US has a reputation for being not-so-great at those, internationallyā€¦ Well, I guess itā€™s definitely an end of the spectrum I havenā€™t experienced.

      If youā€™d like a genuine dialogue Iā€™m here for it, not trying to be belligerent. Have a good one regardless man.

      Yeah, I love to discuss this stuff! Iā€™m grateful anyone wants to talk about it, to be honest. Do you think the far-right has a monopoly on patriot sentiment? Do you think the left can take some of that feeling back and develop a compelling narrative to sway voters?

      Have a good one, as well! :D

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        Ah this is my US centric view kicking in and just assuming everyone is from here, my bad. So many of these issues are universal it feels like. Yeah talking outside our bubbles is very refreshing, thatā€™s a good take we could all use more of.