Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger told investors the company will “quiet the noise” in a culture war that has pitted social conservatives against the global media and entertainment conglomerate, according to an analyst note on Wednesday.

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      Media companies should just focus on making high quality entertainment instead of preaching politics. I think it’s obvious the damage it’s done to their brand by not adhering to that principle.

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        Is it? It’s obvious that it upset the people who run the state of Florida, but high quality entertainment very frequently comes bundled with some kind of politics, because that entertainment is usually a snapshot of the feelings of the people in the age that created it. I’m not sure which properties you find preachy, but the last thing I remember conservatives being upset about was a gay kiss in a Buzz Lightyear movie or something.

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          Disney knew what they were doing and that it went too far or they wouldn’t have made this statement. The company never cared about LGBTQ, diversity or feminism, they were just pandering and it backfired.

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            They knew that they were implementing a gay kiss because there’s such a thing as gay couples in the world? Including parents of plenty of kids who’d go to see that movie? What part was too far?

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              If I were to guess, people have a problem with sexuality and what they consider advanced sexual topics, on the nose diversity, and feminism at the cost of incompetent or subservient male characters being in their family films.

              I think people prefer content such as Toy Story, Bugs Life, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, etc. These were good films that had a universal, moral message without having to do with politics or controversies.

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                Is it an advanced sexual topic when a hetero married couple, like a child protagonist’s parents, have a similar quick peck on the lips? Because if so, that seems overly prudish, and if not, the people who have a problem with it can grow up. To my knowledge, having not seen the movie, that kiss was really only showing that they had someone important in their lives, and I know that Bo Peep could get away with kissing Woody in Toy Story 1 with no controversy at all. There’s also still politics within Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo without looking very hard, and I seem to remember the extremely political Wall-E being wildly popular with audiences and critics, even if I didn’t care for it.

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                  It’s okay to be prudish when it comes to families and children. They don’t need to grow up. If you want to make movies that are not overly prudish and targeted at children you are more than welcome to. No one is stopping you.

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                    Disney movies have had pecks on the lips since the beginning of time. Presumably these children’s parents kiss in front of them the same way all the time.

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                Bo Peep and Woody flirting isn’t universal … and being unwed, the sexual innuendo presents a double standard. But that’s not politics to you.

                But make her a him, call him Beau Peep and change nothing else in the same sentence? “Politics”. Ugh.

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                And yet you didn’t see parents complaining about hetero couples kissing… 🤔

                This is 100% a bigotry issue, they’re just using sexuality as their cudgel to attack the LGBT+ community.

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        When two straight people kiss in a movie does that mean a company is pushing “the straight agenda”?

      • Remember folks, there’s one cultural detail you can already see emerging at mastodon, firefish, bluesky, lemmy, kbin, beehaw, etc. A much more vocal advocacy for “block first, ask questions later.”

        Don’t engage. Block. Let the fascist bigots find themselves with no one to talk to but each other.

        In the old days we called that “don’t feed the trolls.”

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          They are more than welcome to, but clearly there isn’t a large enough audience who wants to see those types of movies, let alone subject their children to it.

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            Representation is incredibly important.

            If your solution is don’t show gay couples because it upsets homophobic people then that’s fucking stupid.

            Black people had to fight a similar battle to be included in the media. Should they have bent to the racists as well in your opinion?

            We know the racists are on the wrong side of history. And anyone sensible knows homophobes and transphobes are as well.