Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

    • pbjamm@beehaw.orgEnglish
      201·
      1 year ago

      Dont worry about it, neither do the people who accuse you of it.

    • Vinegar@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Karl Marx was a philosopher and economist. He wanted to understand class relations and social conflict, so he developed theories to explain why things are the way they are. A Marxist uses Marx’s theories to understand why the world is the way it is.

      Marx had a lot of theories, such as historical materialism - that all history was primarily motivated by socio-economic forces, not supernatural forces or grand conspiracy. Marx wrote that the dominate socio-economic system running the world in his time was capitalism/imperialism which fueled capital accumulation through exploitation and alienation, and used technology to further this process with imperialist wars for resources etc… He also focused on class struggle between those with the most resources, and those with the fewest resources - the bourgeoisie (capitalists) vs. the proletariat (workers/peasants).

      Marx went further than trying to explain why the world is the way it is, he also theorized on how humanity could replace the dominate socio-economic system, and what a non-exploitative non-alienating socio-economic system might look like. “Marxist” refers to anyone who believes Marx’s theories are valid and uses them to understand the way things are.

    • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Marxism is the classical version of communism developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. As opposed to later ideologies such as Marxism-Leninism and Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.

        • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          It’s both, criticism of capitalism and the inevitability of the communist revolution were part of the same philosophy. I suppose you could make an argument that a non-communist dialectical materialist is also a Marxist, though I’ve never seen it used that way in practice.

          • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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            1 year ago

            suppose you could make an argument that a non-communist dialectical materialist is also a Marxist

            That’s my argument

            though I’ve never seen it used that way in practice.

            Sometimes capitalists spout marxist shit and it is recorded. Marxist capitalists are the worst because they have an understanding of the contradictions their counterparts dont. More commonly there are non communist Marxists in philosophy.

            I agree that almost all Marxists are communists, I just felt your initial response was a simplification that lost more meaning in the simplification than it necessarily needed to.

            • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              I only got my undergrad in philosophy so I’d certainly defer to someone with more experience in the field, but I’ve only ever heard the term with regards to his economic theories.

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  Nah, undergrads read almost zero Marxist literature, almost 100% from Marx and just a tiny bit from Engels. The rest is memory-holed from history.

                  I think Marxism is functionally but not technically inherently communist on the grounds that it avoids discussion of moral values and things like that.

            • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
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              1 year ago

              Isn’t it extremely common to accept only some of a person’s ideas? Most modern historians and sociologists would agree that history is mostly driven by material forces rather than by ‘great men’ or supernatural forces. Doesn’t mean they have to be communists.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        1 year ago

        It is not “the classical version of communism”, that would be the Utopian or anarchist ideas and projects that preceded it. Marxism is a class of ideology that has historically and still does have the greatest weight in geopolitical importance, starting with “classical Marxism”, a now-dead ideology, and its many successors, like you list.