On April 17, 2023, the Moscow City Court convicted Vladimir Kara-Murza on combined charges of treason, dissemination of “false information” about the conduct of the Russian Armed Forces, and involvement with an “undesirable organization”, and sentenced him to 25 years in maximum security prison with an additional fine of 400,000 rubles (approximately USD 5,000), restriction of freedom for 1.5 years, and a ban on journalistic activities for 7 years.

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    If they [Nato] can defeat an enemy

    No one wants to defeat or have war with Russia (nor China or any country). That wouldn’t make sense. NATO could have entered the war in Ukraine at any time (with the “excuse” of Russia did “strike first” as you said), but it didn’t, because this war -like any war- doesn’t make sense.

    The US has set up bases all around Russia

    Fair. But didn’t Finland recently and all other countries before join Nato voluntarily? Why so?

    in hopes that they’ll magically become democratic

    If we do what the people want -in Russia, Ukraine, and everywhere else- then we would “magically become democratic”. I argue that no soldier in the battlefields wants to be a soldier, and those who want the war are not in the battlefields. But in non-democratic societies, people don’t make the decisions (and, yes, no democracy is perfect, there’s is a lot do and the work may never end).

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      NATO could have entered the war in Ukraine at any time

      And it has. They are spending on this war as much as they did on Afghanistan. They are sending intel and commands directly to Ukrainian officials. And not just weapons and information; according to the recently leaked papers, there are NATO troops on the field too. They are fighting the war in all senses except legally, and, by extension, in the PR sense.

      this war -like any war- doesn’t make sense

      Every war makes sense. Countries start wars when that’s what benefits them the most. And countries carefully plan and set up future wars.

      Why so?

      There are two sides in this global-scale hybrid war. Finland and other countries have joined what they believe to be the winning side, or at least the side whose victory would be more beneficial to their political interests. Other countries are siding with Russia and China. Countries joining an alliance voluntarily doesn’t mean the alliance isn’t a threat to the other side. NATO has gradually turned itself into an alliance with the power to defeat Russia.

      then we would “magically become democratic”

      No, nobody would. The US has just passed the RESTRICT Act, which imposes stronger restrictions than even China has. If you suggest that your country should just let the authoritarian guard down and allow every foreign psy-ops to have a meaningful effect on it, they’ll just laugh at you or you’ll be killed by thugs in an unfortunate and unrelated turn of events.

      The only way to get what we want is to wait until the existing superpowers have fought each other into an unstable state, then seize power by violence. Anything else is just wishful thinking to feel better about something you don’t actually ever expect to change.