Without wanting to get caught up in the nitty-gritty of what makes something an ‘offshoot’, Marx absolutely follows in the intellectual tradition of Hegel, unlike pretty much all other intellectual paradigms in the Western world.
He does not. Marxism takes from multiple sources and Marxism rejects in particular a lot of things in Hegelianism outright. Marx would’ve never wanted his philosophy to be referred to as “Hegelian.”
This idea that Marxism is “Hegelian” comes from Georg Lukács.
Marx would’ve never wanted his philosophy to be referred to as “Hegelian.”
Too darned bad, his adoption and modification of the dialectic (something that the Western analytic tradition entirely eschews) places firmly in the Hegelian lineage, as evidenced by him even being a member of the Young Hegelians for a time. Just because he disagrees radically with Hegel on several aspects, he still follows firmly in that dialectical methodological tradition. Is it ‘Hegelian’? I don’t know or care. Does it follow a causal historical linkage from his study of Hegel? Yes, so it’s absolutely fair to say he’s an offshoot of Hegel.
Western analytic philosophy and it’s offshoots follow a dramatically different methodological tradition. Which is why Chomsky, who is brilliant in his own right, just blanks out at any discussion of Marxism.
It doesn’t matter. Hegelianism got its dialectic from Greek philosophy, but that doesn’t make it an “offshoot” of Greek philosophy and Chomsky is not brilliant at all.
Greek philosophy, but that doesn’t make it an “offshoot” of Greek philosophy
Please google the definition of offshoot.
Chomsky is not brilliant at all.
I mean he revolutionized modern linguistics, even if turns out his models were wrong, so I’m going to defer to the linguists on this matter. Is he wrong about a ton of political stuff? Sure, but that’s asking a different question.
Marxism isn’t an offshoot of Hegelianism.
Without wanting to get caught up in the nitty-gritty of what makes something an ‘offshoot’, Marx absolutely follows in the intellectual tradition of Hegel, unlike pretty much all other intellectual paradigms in the Western world.
He does not. Marxism takes from multiple sources and Marxism rejects in particular a lot of things in Hegelianism outright. Marx would’ve never wanted his philosophy to be referred to as “Hegelian.”
This idea that Marxism is “Hegelian” comes from Georg Lukács.
Too darned bad, his adoption and modification of the dialectic (something that the Western analytic tradition entirely eschews) places firmly in the Hegelian lineage, as evidenced by him even being a member of the Young Hegelians for a time. Just because he disagrees radically with Hegel on several aspects, he still follows firmly in that dialectical methodological tradition. Is it ‘Hegelian’? I don’t know or care. Does it follow a causal historical linkage from his study of Hegel? Yes, so it’s absolutely fair to say he’s an offshoot of Hegel.
Western analytic philosophy and it’s offshoots follow a dramatically different methodological tradition. Which is why Chomsky, who is brilliant in his own right, just blanks out at any discussion of Marxism.
It doesn’t matter. Hegelianism got its dialectic from Greek philosophy, but that doesn’t make it an “offshoot” of Greek philosophy and Chomsky is not brilliant at all.
“Is it ‘Hegelian’? I don’t know or care.”
There you go then.
Please google the definition of offshoot.
I mean he revolutionized modern linguistics, even if turns out his models were wrong, so I’m going to defer to the linguists on this matter. Is he wrong about a ton of political stuff? Sure, but that’s asking a different question.
Chomsky popularized certain things in linguistics; his work was preceded by the likes of Lev Vygotsky.
If this is an ironic callback to Marxists generally hating everything, being needlessly contentious and obnoxious, it’s a good bit.
Marxists aren’t generally like this. Stop generalizing.
“Please google the definition of offshoot.”
Please Google the definitino of reductive.
You’re not arguing about anything real. You’re using “hegelianism” in a different way from a_blanqui_slate and then getting mad at a_b_s for it
But I’m not mad…