• kittenbridgeasteroid
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    1 year ago

    No, the ones I posted show the demographics of the chronically homeless. People who aren’t homeless have nothing to do with the discussion.

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      No the ones you posted are as disingenuous as posting crime stats to imply that black people are inherently violent. Correlation is not causation and you can’t just look at them in a vacuum.

      Without knowing what the baseline for mental health is how do you even know that 80% is statistically significant deviation from the standard population? I can tell you for certain that around 60% of people I’ve met have lifelong drug problems, homeless or not.

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        1 year ago

        Have you been to a section 8 neighborhood? What you’re suggesting would be even worse

        Each person needs the help they need…. Some homeless folks just need a break, for sure! I’ve been there myself. Some of them are legit crazy and homeless for a good reason, I’ve lived alongside them and you can’t just give them a home and all is well, they legit need professional help. Putting those folks up in housing alongside the folks that do legit just need a little help will taint the public perception against all of them and screw up a good attempt at solving the issue. We really need a system in place to evaluate these folks and get them the level of help they really need, but that would be socialism and that’s bad so I guess let’s all just keep suffering hahaha

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        how do you even know that 80% is statistically significant deviation from the standard population?

        What a ridiculous question

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        It doesn’t matter what the general population is. We’re discussing the homeless population.

        Your questions are a strawman.

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            1 year ago

            are you going to suggest melanin causes homelessness?

            Are you going to suggest that race plays no factor and it’s entirely a coincidence? What exactly are you suggesting here? “All the data must be pure coincidence”? “What even IS data anyways?”

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              I’m trying to suggest that correlation is not causation which is not exactly an esoteric fucking concept. Unless you think that their skin color is the cause for it and that the solution is forced skin lightening treatments.

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                And I’m trying to suggest “it’s the sole cause” and “it has no impact whatsoever” are both fundamentally stupid things to say.

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                  Skin color is not a cause you cretin, in whole or in part. The cause with black people is systemic racism and the cause for Hawaiians is the fact that they got turned into a fucking resort state and real estate spiraled. Just like the cause of homelessness is not mental illness, it’s an institutional unwillingness to provide them with homes.