The problem is there’s a lot of people that want to push that lifestyle on every single human being
I suspect you misunderstand what these people want. Let’s use myself as an example, I am as opposed to suburbs as they come. Does it mean I am opposed to you living in a suburb? No. I am opposed to:
Zoning laws forcing large residential developments to contain only single-family homes, rather than allowing mixed-use medium density communities. You wouldn’t want your preferred type of development to be banned, either.
Our streets where we live being designed with the primary goal of maximizing the number of cars passing through them, like they are today. You wouldn’t want heavy car traffic in front of your home, either.
My children wasting 100 minutes of time every day commuting to school because our city planners did a terrible job, when their school should be within a safe 15 minute bicycle ride. You wouldn’t want your kids to be wasting their life in traffic, either.
We largely want the same things. The main difference I see is that I’m looking for ways to improve my lifestyle in a way that doesn’t automatically decrease the quality of life of other people, such as driving my car in front of their homes at all times of the day or making their neighborhoods unwalkable.
Car-dependent city planning is causing all these problems.
Theres a lot of people that pretend the opposite, as well. We are all biased towards the thing we like. Its obvious cities are popular, because they are expensive. Its also obvious suburbs are popular, because they alsoare axpensive.
What people mostly wish is that more city could be built, becausethe demand forcity living is still highar than that for suburbs.
So you know how absurd your comment was. MAYBE you could say what you said about parts of Manhattan, but the boroughs are entirely different. South Brooklyn you have beach front property—and varied styles of neighborhoods at that, north Brooklyn you have dense urban centers intercut with quiet, tree lined neighborhoods and clean brownstones, queens you have a lot of places that feel like you’ve left the city entirely for more dense suburban living, bronx, yeah it’s very dense urban, like Manhattan but entirely different, and then Staten Island is like an entirely different state.
So again, I really don’t know what you mean. You can find so many different types of areas throughout the five boroughs. Yeah, you can find loud, dense and dirty areas, but you can find the exact opposite—or really almost anything.
No way, New York City is a shitty place to live? Next you’ll tell me water is wet or something. Mind blown.
It’s not for everyone, but “shitty place to live” isn’t at all true.
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Different strokes for different folks. Instead of shitting on something, we can simply say "it is not for me because of X and Y".
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I suspect you misunderstand what these people want. Let’s use myself as an example, I am as opposed to suburbs as they come. Does it mean I am opposed to you living in a suburb? No. I am opposed to:
We largely want the same things. The main difference I see is that I’m looking for ways to improve my lifestyle in a way that doesn’t automatically decrease the quality of life of other people, such as driving my car in front of their homes at all times of the day or making their neighborhoods unwalkable.
Car-dependent city planning is causing all these problems.
Theres a lot of people that pretend the opposite, as well. We are all biased towards the thing we like. Its obvious cities are popular, because they are expensive. Its also obvious suburbs are popular, because they alsoare axpensive.
What people mostly wish is that more city could be built, becausethe demand forcity living is still highar than that for suburbs.
Lol have you…been to New York? Because it doesn’t sound like it.
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So you know how absurd your comment was. MAYBE you could say what you said about parts of Manhattan, but the boroughs are entirely different. South Brooklyn you have beach front property—and varied styles of neighborhoods at that, north Brooklyn you have dense urban centers intercut with quiet, tree lined neighborhoods and clean brownstones, queens you have a lot of places that feel like you’ve left the city entirely for more dense suburban living, bronx, yeah it’s very dense urban, like Manhattan but entirely different, and then Staten Island is like an entirely different state.
So again, I really don’t know what you mean. You can find so many different types of areas throughout the five boroughs. Yeah, you can find loud, dense and dirty areas, but you can find the exact opposite—or really almost anything.