• Pxtl@lemmy.ca
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    Western governments are supporting Israel because they just got over a thousand people butchered.

    They’re also asking Israel to show restraint in Palestine. Even the US, Israel’s chief arm’s dealer, is telling them not to do war crimes. Is it meaningless chin music? Of course. But it’s not necessarily an “endorsement”.

    If your friend sees his kid get grievously hurt, you support him. When he gets his gun, you try to talk him down. Now, the problem in this story is: you gave him that gun.

    I don’t think the west is endorsing genocide.

    I do think that, if it really comes to real actual genocide: They armed it.


    edit: I thought that weird name looked familiar, so I figured I’d check. Why are they always vatniks?

    https://lemmy.ml/comment/3437882 by https://lemmy.ca/u/yogthos@lemmy.ml

    No, I don’t think Putin is draining any swamp, but I do think he runs a far more competent administration than western oligarchs.

    (Side note, speaking of WWII: Remember that Soviet flag on the Reichstag picture? That’s of a Ukrainian. Taken by a Ukrainian).

    And now thanks to the help from the west Ukraine is run by literal fascists. Maybe something you should reflect on.

    In any case, this conversation is clearly pointless since you evidently live in an alternate reality. I’ll just let you figure things out on your own and reconcile the fantasies you’ve built up with the real world as it becomes increasingly more difficult to ignore going forward.

    (emphasis mine)

    blocked. Life is too short for people like this.

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        Looks like the source data for that is here:

        https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

        I note that the vast majority of the Palestinian “injuries” is the inhalation of tear gas. Kinda puts the whole thing in context really.

        Additionally, these numbers don’t illustrate who is the aggressor nor their intent.

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        1 year ago

        Same to you.

        And the red in that graph is “injuries”, not “deaths”. When Hamas attacked Israel a few days ago they butchered over 1300 people, mostly civilians, the most ever killed in a single day in this mess.

        Does that excuse the Israeli government’s apartheid fascism? Of course not. Does it make appropriate for governments to take a moment to show support? Yes.

        You can argue that it’s retaliation for decades of oppression, or for the horrible attacks in Palestine in 2014 that killed even more people spread over a month.

        That doesn’t make it right. It’s still terrorism. It’s still butchering civilians.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          No, it does not make it appropriate for governments to show support for the genocide that Israel is committing. And the fact that you don’t understand that says everything I need to know about you.