This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

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      9 months ago

      Didn’t look like you’re replying to anyone supporting Hamas.

      Also, there is an alternative #2 in your scenario. “Know your enemy would lose too much western support too readily if they were to fine on all the civilian targets they would like to”.

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        Even in your alternative, this is preferable to Hamas who has no such reservations and is being backed by Iran who wants nothing but to cause havoc and weasel their way to nuclear power.

        I’m replying to people who are conflating Hamas’ deranged action as some sort of legitimate resistance

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      9 months ago

      Imagine how things may go if Israel attempted to use Jews as human shields against Hamas.

      You mean like putting many settlements and civilians right on the border of Gaza, a concentration camp and active war Zone? Or allowing a rave dance to occur at the gates of a concentration camp and active war zone, and next to a military base that would be targeted by Hamas? And sprinkle in some IDF tanks while you’re at it.

      Wait, we don’t have to imagine it.

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        Literally ever Jewish person in Israel would be dead tomorrow if Hamas has the military power of Israel. And the next day they would move on to genocide against some other group that doesn’t ascribe to their deranged world view. I cannot understand how Israel being awful blinds people to how much worse Hamas is.

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          Can you please actually address my comment that you’re responding to? I was talking about Israel using human shields. You’re bringing up an entirely new argument that’s unrelated. Unless you mean that Israel is justified using human shields?

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            9 months ago

            You said we don’t need to imagine it. I think you do.

            You are equating people living in settlements near Gaza with firing rockets from schools and hospitals. Do I really need to respond to that?

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              We don’t have to imagine it because it is already happening, and I gave you the example.

              You are equating people living in settlements near Gaza with firing rockets from schools and hospitals

              You do realize those Israeli settlements have schools and hospitals too, right? They held a rave dance surrounded by IDF tanks. But I understand you already made up your mind.

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                We know Hamas explicitly wants to kill all of the Jews in Israel. They have told us this explicitly, many times. How would Israel using human shields make ANY sense? Was there an attack launched from the dance rave you claim happened ? As Hamas launches their attacks from the schools and hospitals? Why the fuck would anyone attend this? Do you see how this makes absolutely no sense

                They are not launching attacks from their schools and hospitals. And have an advanced defense system to protect themselves.