• theluckyone@lemmy.world
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    Two groups of murderers: Hamas on one side, the IDF and the Israeli government on the other. The civilians (Palestinian and Israeli) are caught between them and suffer the most.

    Each group cries about the horrors inflicted upon the citizens, while using them as excuses to continue commiting atrocities. I find it hard to be sympathetic to anyone but the poor folk caught in between.

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      Yeah, they had to do this in face of allegations of fake claims. Sadly truth is worse than even the lies…

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        And you still have people, even in this very thread, making excuses and justifications

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      Thanks. Don’t wanna burn NSFL shit in my retinas.

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    I’d be surprised if it didn’t support Israel’s position, given it’s a government facility and Israel is at war.

    I’m sure the Hamas equivalent facility (if they originally had one) would have equal evidence of Israeli atrocities, if Gaza wasn’t being pounded into literal dust.

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    Holy fuck. It’s truly horrifying. These people were bound up with metal wire and burned to death, put their hands in front of their faces to protect themselves as they got shot in the head, or were decapitated. Soot in the trachea means they were alive before being burned. A bloodstained baby’s mattress whose blood will be used to ID the disfigured baby. A popular recipe book open to a page and covered in blood.

    Hamas did this. It cannot be denied. This was an atrocity.

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    These are monsters. They’re not human

    As if the two are mutually exclusive.

    But seriously, if you demonize the other side, regardless of their atrocities, you start to justify your own atrocities just so you can get at the demons.

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    We thrown 6000 bombs at gaza in 10 days, among them the horrible phosphorus bombs.

    We’ve been doing ethnic cleansing since 75 years

    We’ve killed more civilians palistinians in 10 days than the Ukrainian war total losses.

    look what theirs weak bombs did too our poor people. Be sad for us please.

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      look what theirs weak bombs did too our poor people. Be sad for us please.

      The article is not about victims of rocket launches…

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        You can tell how he is not acting in good faith by how he changes the topic so he can keep repeating himself.

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          Isreal iscommiting atrocities and is cheered for it ! Good faith ? You’d feel sad for a cat being shoot by a random on the street. Palestinians are massacred and people are trying to find reasons why they deserve it and your talking about good faith ? But then again, some people supported south Africa during the Apartheid.

          so he can keep repeating himself.

          And it’s tiring. You’d think they’d understand from the first comments.

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        The IDF did far worse. For 75 years.

        Ever seen an explosive bullet aftermath ? They even killed a journalist with one.

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            They admitted that it was their fault with the journalist.

            I think technically they said that there was a high likelihood that they were killed by an Israeli bullet

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              They then didn’t criminally investigate the matter, which basically makes their admission of fault (which I don’t remember happening but maybe I missed it) meaningless. Also this wasn’t a one-off; this is normal in Israel. The incident with Shireen just got a lot of coverage. Hell, they just bombed a bunch of press vehicles a last week.

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            Stop lying ? The Ethnic cleansing is a lie,right ? The countless images online are fabricated too? Only Isreal says the truth no matter reality or history,right?

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              I also condemn many of the IDF’s crimes in recent decades. But your ‘ethnic cleansing’ is not a truth. There have never been more Palestinians than there are now.This looks like very incompetent ethnic cleansing.

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                The average age in Gaza is 19. People are overwhelmingly dying young in Gaza; it’s just that more kids are born in there place.

                Also Israeli settlement of the West bank is 100% ethnic cleansing. Kicking people off their land and/or killing them in a concentrated effort to displace them is very much ethnic cleansing. And that was going on in Gaza until 2005.

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                There’s no ethics cleansing because people in constant war have a lot of kids to replace the ones getting constantly killed is the weirdest take yet. Read about history it’s literally how humans did since like ever. I also advise you to read how the UN describes ethnic cleansing .

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      1. That’s just whataboutism.
      2. Gaza was part of Egypt up until 55 years ago.
      3. Hamas rockets are not weak, the portrayal of Children Throwing Stones from the 1990’s is long gone - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi6uhOmTMWU
      4. Israel didn’t use Phosphorus bombs in Gaza (at least not this time). Israel didn’t attack with Phosphorus bombs in Gaza. There is a record of using it for illumination and signalling, which is not illegal under international law.
      5. It’s not their bombs - it’s them physically torturing civilians in the most horrendous ways. If you can’t condemn that type of behaviour then you’re clearly supporting it.

      It seems that you either intentionally deflecting and lying, pushing propaganda or have no idea what you’re talking about.

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          I stand corrected. Looks like it was an isolated case and luckily there were no casualties. It also looks like it wasn’t used for attack but rather for signalling, which is not illegal under international law.

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        whataboutism

        Don’t tell the world that these are retribution to the far worst crimes we’ve been commiting to them for 75 years . We need support to commit more atrocities on them like blocking water , electricity , bombing residential areas, schools, hospitals…

        We’ve done it countless times before without any repercussions but we want to commit mass genocide now.

        it seems that you either intentionally deflecting and lying, pushing propaganda or have no idea what you’re talking about.

        Projection much ? It’s literally what Isreal is doing everywhere. They’re lying demonizing, and sharing misinformation at grand scale.

        Freedom for Palestine