• ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    You are building a strawman. Genocide is never okay, I believe Hamas is trying to commit genocide and Israel is not.

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      1 year ago

      Great! After four back and forths we finally agree that genocide is not okay. Common ground! I’m glad we’ve communicated to this point.

      So it seems our only disagreement, is if the Gaza bombings, in upcoming military incursion count as genocide.

      A. Killing members of the group - Israel has made it clear that they wish to destroy the national group of Hamas and all of their supporters, which has been indicated to be every citizen of the Gaza strip.

      B. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group! Let’s ignore the bodily harm, the constant bombing is driving every person in the Gaza strip mad. The full embargo is also creating a humanitarian emergency for every person in the Gaza strip

      C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction and whole or in part. The humanitarian embargo, The bombings, and the political rhetoric about leveling the Gaza strip.

      I’m an outsider, I am neither Israeli nor Palestinian. Maybe you don’t trust my interpretation, that’s fine. Would you believe Jewish scholars? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/18/israel-gaza-hamas-palestinians

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        1 year ago

        So it seems our only disagreement, is if the Gaza bombings, in upcoming military incursion count as genocide

        Correct. I know this article and the article of the expert on genocide from the UN and even they don’t dare to write straight out: “Israel is committing genocide”. Because they know it’s bs. It’s a propaganda tool from activists.

        I’d agree on almost all of the arguments that Israel is committing war crimes and that they try to get Gaza, perhaps even Westbank. I just don’t agree that this is genocide because it doesn’t target all Palestinians as an ethnic group because they are Palestinians (for example).

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          1 year ago

          Ok. Then we are just splitting hairs, and are basically on the same page, a basket of war crimes is going to amp up the voilence not end it.