• Count042@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    You know that America just… does this, right? No bill, no law… In fact it was the first to do this at all. It’s why in crime shows they remove the battery (from phone where you still can, of course.)

    • SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      No, the “Patriot” Act did authorize stuff like this in the US. There was also the “Freedom” Act, and generally this is all FISA stuff that has very low standards for what’s allowed.

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          1 year ago

          Still no. Do they do it anyway? Probably, but that doesn’t make it legal.

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            1 year ago

            If I do something, people find out about it, and I don’t get arrested, it’s defacto legal

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            1 year ago

            are they gonna get in trouble for doing it, even if the government finds out?

            probably not, so it’s practically legal; and that’s kind of the only kind of legality that matters in this case

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      1 year ago

      It would require a warrant signed by a judge with probable cause.

      Wiretap warrants aren’t easy.

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        1 year ago

        It will be like that in France as well. But once they have the tools, there will be abuse.

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        Sorry for the late response, but remind me again how many warrants the FISA court has denied?

        That’s an approval rate of 99.97%