Tired of all this pumpkin and plastic skeleton crap everywhere. Thanks, marketing ghouls rage-cry

What, are we going to start celebrating the 4th of July next? Might as well with the NATO membership I guess

  • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    Thats, again, a personal you thing. Around me halloween is such a family thing that people without good family ties do a friends-giving style celebration to replace it.

    And goodwill to all is a pretty common harvest celebration theme that halloween carries just as well as christmas, especially with how immensely cynical christmas has become.

    I dont get a day off for most of my holidays, and christmas is included with that. Not sure why your bosses opinion on holidays matters tho.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      It’s not just a me thing because also everyone else in my country celebrates those two holidays the same way or at least a significant proportion enough to make that the default cultural understanding.

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        Is it a cultural understanding because everyone does it like that?

        Or is it a cultural understanding because a lot of movies and shows show it like that, and people arent doing what movies do as much as you would think?

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          well base and superstructure the way the holiday is presented and the way it is celebrated influence each other

          but I take it as a cultural understanding because it’s the only way I’ve ever known it. When I was a kid that was the way every family I went to school with celebrated it and now I’m an adult everyone I know does it that way round, also that is the way media, news etc cover it. So all my experiences of living in my culture tell me this is the normal expected way of doing it

          it’s fine to not do it that way around of course but it’s outside of the social norms

          • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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            I dunno, thats also what op says is their norm, except for all the people from all around europe saying that op is probably just projecting their parents opinion.

            Social norms arent really often as norm as you think

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              no people are saying OP is wrong and that halloween is a holiday not that is a bigger deal culturally than Christmas

              people in europe only really started celebrating halloween in living memory it is simply not a major holiday here. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a holiday though

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                Halloween was born in europe… One generation falling out of the celebration doesnt erase it from the culture.

                And no one said it was bigger than christmas?

                • doublepepperoni [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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                  Halloween was a very specifically Irish thing that got picked up the English and passed on to the Americans. It wasn’t some pan-European celebration but some cultures had similar celebrations