• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    1. Stopping rich slave owners from establishing total control of an entire continent and the founding of a slave based economic system is its own cause.

    You mean the slave-based economic system that predated independence? That was cultivated by the British Empire intentionally to alleviate the problem of white indentured servants making demands of British elites? The continent where the Brits were continuously expanding their holdings? That continent?

    Fuck outta here with this infantile nationalist bullshit.

    1. On one hand we have the actual historical reality that the Britain (and even the US, eventually) banned slavery despite its profitability. On the other hand, we have your ass. I know which one I think is more likely to produce something that resembles a likely outcome.

    “The UK probably would have taken longer to ban slavery if the profits were significantly greater and their industry (reliant on Southern cotton produced by slavery up to the 1860s) was reliant on them not banning slavery in their colonies”

    “ur ass”

    Sorry that you have such an amazing paucity of ability to analysis hypotheticals. I hope you improve someday.

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        You’re absolutely right, what was I thinking!?

        In the true spirit of the comm, what I meant was “Correct, the British Empire would have brought civilization and humane treatment to the colonies just as it had everywhere else HM’s rule prevailed, if it had just lasted a little longer” 🙏

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          That’s more like it. Everyone knows that more war leads to more peace, it’s just the way of things. Now back in yer tank and put the kettle on, lad, we’re not engaging the Navajo Light Atomic Brigade without a brew. Let’s make his/her maj proud.

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        “It’s funny that you’re dismissive about someone displaying a total inability to examine cause and effect or the actual origins of the systems condemned despite it explicitly being pointed out, something that will not be acknowledged so long as the possibility for masturbation over the British Empire remains”

        Hilarious, even.

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              No. It actually does.

              If your cousin-fucking ancestors had died before they could produce an entire country fill of shit humans, the world would be a better place. That is the central premise of my argument. The people who created a country filled with people like you were not fit to run a country and that literally any alternative would have been better.

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                If your cousin-fucking ancestors had died before they could produce an entire country fill of shit humans, the world would be a better place. That is the central premise of my argument.

                Ah, so your argument is based on eugenics. Unsurprising from a supporter of British imperialism.

                I do find it amusing that a country made primarily of immigrants is being called “cousin-fuckers” by an insular island led by a family so inbred that it collapsed the entire European royal system.

                The people who created a country filled with people like you were not fit to run a country and that literally any alternative would have been better.

                This may come as a surprise to someone slobbering on Queen Victoria’s scepter, but British imperialism has produced a great many fucked-up countries by the rampant genocide and exploitation it engaged in. Sorry that I don’t agree that a longer period of British imperialism would have ‘improved’ the lowly colonials. Maybe you just needed to perform a few more genocides to keep the filthy Scotch-Irish mongrels in the colonies down.

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                  You realize that the United States is the crowned champion of genocide, right? Like yeah, the British empire was a pretty horrible thing. So bad, that the only thing that most can agree was worse was what the Americans did to their own continent.

                  I mean, I don’t really hold you responsible. You are the produce of six generations of inbreeding and the worst education system in the first world. Its not really your fault. Lets just pretend that every OTHER British colony didn’t wind up better than the shithole you live in.

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                    You realize that the United States is the crowned champion of genocide, right? Like yeah, the British empire was a pretty horrible thing. So bad, that the only thing that most can agree was worse was what the Americans did to their own continent.

                    This the same British Empire which caused 100 million deaths in India alone, which it only ruled for a relatively short period of the Empire’s existence?

                    I mean, I don’t really hold you responsible. You are the produce of six generations of inbreeding and the worst education system in the first world. Its not really your fault. Lets just pretend that every OTHER British colony didn’t wind up better than the shithole you live in.

                    Wow. I did think the US public education system was bad, but if you think that the US is the worst-off of the British colonies, it’s clear that whatever backwater part of the UK you’re living in has it worse. You have my condolences.

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                    Dude, the British literally invented concentration camps to hold/remove the Bohrs. The Nazi’s literally copied you to build theirs.

                    Not only that, the English have committed countless genocides over the centuries. Remember the Irish Potato Famine? What about the East India Company’s actions in India? Where the fuck did the Bretons and Celts go?

                    I mean, I don’t really hold you responsible. You are the produce of six generations of inbreeding and the worst education system

                    Again, you teatotallers have been stuck on an island for centuries, versus a country that’s gotten constant influxes on immigrants for the past 300+ years. This “inbreeding” bullshit just makes you look like a complete tool.

                    Lets just pretend that every OTHER British colony didn’t wind up better than the shithole you live in.

                    Ah, yes because India under Modi is so great. Or Pakistan. Let’s also look at how Iraq turned out, even before the US-Iraqi War. And South Africa totally isn’t in a constant state of being on the brink of a race war. And wasn’t Iran one of the US’s oldest allies before the British government bribed US politicians to betry them simply because BP wanted oil contracts?

                    You focussing on only Canada and Australia as examples shows how large your blinders are when it comes to how much damage the British Empire has done across the globe. You’re trying to bash the US for what is ironically one of the largest displays of British Imperialism I’ve seen in modern times.

                    At least the US isn’t the one to throw a giant temper tantrum over losing a colony and butchering their own language as a result. And no, I’m not kidding, parts of North Carolina have accents that are the closest to how colonial-era English was spoken. Your “pish-posh bo’le o’ wa’er” bullshit is less than 200 years old, all because your inbred noble class wanted to distinguish themselves from the peasants before the peasants copied them anyways.