Yeah, that’s why I’m really curious about how this will play out. I just hope that people will be the ones benefiting from this shitshow and not Youtube.
YouTube is a for-profit service run by a company. If they can’t make it profitable due to low premium adoption or regulation there will be less freedom to post/view stuff on there. There will be no upside for users.
Everyone should really reevaluate their stance on premium services and the value they get out of them. The time of free is over - even something like lemmy needs funding.
So then they’ll just embed them into the video, refuse to serve the video until the time is up, etc. Running clientside snooping scripts is only one way for them to enforce this. The idea that EU law will somehow force YouTube to just serving you content without ads is entirely copium.
Yep, been common for sports streams where you get a notification that game is on break or something and play will resume once game starts again. Preferable over ads to me.
OK? That’s still not Google “losing” some battle. The point was the legality of their current implementation isn’t going to change whether they give in and just serve you the content like the OP was claiming
So? Let them make those changes then. That’s additional complexity and effort. They absolutely scoped that implementation against the one they chose and chose not to do it. Forcing them to spend the effort is still meaningful.
You really dont want them embedding ads into videos like that. There’d be no blocking them and no way to download them without the ads baked right into the video file.
SponserBlock provides defenses against that with minor modifications.
It’s been suggested that that would be an absolute last ditch effort because it trashes your ability to display targeted ads or update them without absolutely wrecking your CDNs. You also can’t have the ad link to anything because that would allow the client to trivially detect and skip it.
Ad Nauseam also provides the nuclear option of downloading the ads, pretending to display them, and even pretending to click them. You might still have to wait out the delay for while the ad should be playing for the first ad, but once you get past that they can’t prevent the player skipping ads without also preventing you skipping 30s of boring content.
Still wondering how this will play out in the EU.
It might actually be illegal in the EU for them to run scripts to detect ad blockers without asking permission first.
Yeah, that’s why I’m really curious about how this will play out. I just hope that people will be the ones benefiting from this shitshow and not Youtube.
YouTube is a for-profit service run by a company. If they can’t make it profitable due to low premium adoption or regulation there will be less freedom to post/view stuff on there. There will be no upside for users.
Everyone should really reevaluate their stance on premium services and the value they get out of them. The time of free is over - even something like lemmy needs funding.
So then they’ll just embed them into the video, refuse to serve the video until the time is up, etc. Running clientside snooping scripts is only one way for them to enforce this. The idea that EU law will somehow force YouTube to just serving you content without ads is entirely copium.
A black screen is infinitely less annoying than an ad. I don’t see google winning this battle.
Yep, been common for sports streams where you get a notification that game is on break or something and play will resume once game starts again. Preferable over ads to me.
OK? That’s still not Google “losing” some battle. The point was the legality of their current implementation isn’t going to change whether they give in and just serve you the content like the OP was claiming
So? Let them make those changes then. That’s additional complexity and effort. They absolutely scoped that implementation against the one they chose and chose not to do it. Forcing them to spend the effort is still meaningful.
You really dont want them embedding ads into videos like that. There’d be no blocking them and no way to download them without the ads baked right into the video file.
People will figure out a sponsorblock-esque crowdsourced ad detection that auto skips everything that isn’t part of the video.
SponserBlock provides defenses against that with minor modifications.
It’s been suggested that that would be an absolute last ditch effort because it trashes your ability to display targeted ads or update them without absolutely wrecking your CDNs. You also can’t have the ad link to anything because that would allow the client to trivially detect and skip it.
Ad Nauseam also provides the nuclear option of downloading the ads, pretending to display them, and even pretending to click them. You might still have to wait out the delay for while the ad should be playing for the first ad, but once you get past that they can’t prevent the player skipping ads without also preventing you skipping 30s of boring content.
That’s a significantly less profitable ad model. If they wanna shoot themselves, let them