• Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    I missed where those points talked about Hitler or Mussolini.

    Do you want to provide a definition of fascism if you find Eco’s inadequate? I’m sure you’ve done a lot more research into this than he did when he wrote the book.

    Or is your objection based more on vibes than reality?

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      I missed where those points talked about Hitler or Mussolini.

      Nudge nudge wink wink - we’re not comparing anyone to Hitler just fascism - that’s “COMPLETELY DIFFERENT™”.

      My objection is to the over-use of “fascism” for everything liberals don’t like. MAGA is a dangerous beast and has strong authoritarian leanings but it’s not fascism. It can get worse. Much worse. Calling it fascism now is hyperbole that won’t be taken seriously by people who aren’t already in your circle-jerk.

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        So even though it fits the definition it isn’t fascism because it hurts people’s feelings.

        Boo fuckin’ hoo.

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          It doesn’t meet the definition. MAGA is heavily influenced by fundamentalism. Where is that in Fascism?

          Having similarities doesn’t make them the same.

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            It doesn’t meet the definition. MAGA is heavily influenced by fundamentalism. Where is that in Fascism?

            The very first one?

            • The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
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          Definitions are useful to describe what people are talking about. They are not magical rules which speak things into existence.

          Where is christian fundamentalism in that definition of “fascism”? Or un-regulated capitalism / corporatism?

          There are similarities between MAGA and fascism but there are things that are quite different as well.