Illogical? To most normal people.
Surprising? Hardly.
Troubling? Yes. Everything about this administration is troublingThis is the second time OMB under Vought has tried to gut NASA. Canceling active missions is also the most wasteful. It requires so much money and effort to get a mission into space but once itās there it costs pennies on the dollar to actually get a scientific return from the mission. The point is to harm science.
Theocrats never had much need for science.
Why are all these otherwise-seemingly-smart people constantly surprised at MAGA fascists breaking shit?
Iām assuming heās being āpoliteā by calling it surprise.
People need to quit being polite to fascists.
I think his intention is to not let fascists dismiss him as easily. I donāt see any harm in saying āitās surprisingā that an awful person did an awful thing when your intent is to illustrate that itās an awful thing. We have no evidence to suggest bill nye would seek to placate or minimize fascist deeds. Heās consistently throughout the years voiced sane opinions in favor of science and addressing climate change. Those are the things he cares about.
I can see how that could be the intent, but it still gives the fascistsā blatantly dishonest bullshit credibility that it doesnāt deserve and is thus IMO a tactical error. The audience for his comments canāt be the committed fascists themselves; they donāt give a shit about anything he has to say. The audience has to be people who are still (somehow) undecided, and treating the fascist position as anything but a sick joke helps the fascists.
I donāt agree that itās productive for him to lash out at these people. I personally think they deserve it but millions of kids didnāt grow up respecting me. If they did, Iād do my best to remain someone they might listen to. Weāve all seen how little it takes for them to dismiss any point they donāt like
No, ālashing outā is not what Iām suggesting either, because that also hands them more credibility than they deserve.
The correct reaction is to shame and ridicule them. React as if theyāve told a joke, and treat them like the clowns they are. Literally laugh them out of the public discourse and demonstrate to every non-fascist that their āideasā arenāt even worth bothering to refute. Channel Bender: āOh wait, youāre serious? Let me laugh even harder!ā
Above all, they must not be allowed to control the conversation, and thatās what treating their ideas as credible, as Nye has done here, does.
So another interpretation here is that heās surprised in a historical sense that we could ever arrive here. I think people make a lot of assumptions about what people mean.
Thatās the problem. Dems are obsessed with being polite to MAGA.
STOP THAT! We need to be mean to these people, show our disgust for them. They are racist traitors who support corruption and excuse pedophilia. They are the grossest segment of society, far worse than the minorities or undocumented that they despise. MAGAs are the ONLY acceptable target for bullying, and they should be victims of our bullying CONSTANTLY.
We have no obligation to be polite to corrupt, racist, violent, ignorant, incompetent, pedophile TRAITORS. Theyāre lucky we donāt push them into traffic every time we see one.
Bill nye is a science communicator. A lot of these magats grew up watching his videos in science class. You would have him go on a tirade about how theyāre all racist traitors. Not only has this worked for zero people so far, for someone in his position it is literally counter productive. Instead of seeing him as a āscience guyā (who maybe has a point from their pov) heās now a āwoke libtardā they can ignore.
Yeah, I want their heroes to tell them what pieces of shit they are directly to their faces. Who cares if they write him off? Nobody should be seeking their approval. I donāt care what MAGA thinks of me, or what they call me, itās a badge of honor to be hated by MAGA. I welcome it.
The more they reject intelligent, NORMAL people because they refuse to accept their treasonous delusions, the more isolated they become, and the more isolated they are, the easier it will be to crush them.
You donāt seem to be aware but this approach has been widely tried and has helped zero.
Thatās simply not true, Trumpās approval ratings are plunging, in the mid to low 30s, and steadily dropping. MAGAs are cowardly sheep, and they will go wherever the wind blows them. They were strong when they thought things were going their way, but now it is clear that MAGA is falling apart badly, and is almost certainly going to collapse at some point, and many are finding reasons to slip out the side door. They are realizing that the longer they stick around, the harder it will be to deny their treason when this is over, and since it has become undeniable that MAGA is virtuosically incompetent, they will certainly be on the wrong side at the end.
After the Midterm bloodbath, MAGA will be Germany after the successful D-Day Invasion. Theyāll still be fighting, but theyll know that their eventual loss is inevitable. Then the MAGA exodus will begin in earnest, and theyāll be looking for any reason. Threatening to make them social pariahs for the rest of their lives, will be enough motivation for many to leave MAGA.
Jokes on them, though. I own a business, and for the rest of my life, one of the things Iāll ask about is a personās history with MAGA, and I will verify it before hiring. If you were MAGA, or if you are a registered Republican, you will NEVER work for me. And if I hire you, and later find out you lied, you will be immediately fired. I will not work with people who are proven to be treasonous, corrupt, racist, misogynist, ignorant, incompetent, and pedophiles, or have been willing to excuse those things, and support those who are guilty of those things. I donāt want that kind of person poisoning my business or the good people who work for me.
I donāt know dude, I support your ability to not employ magats and Iād hope to do the same, maybe just less overtly. I feel like I can typically tell the type within seconds. In any case I donāt think we disagree on anything here but the prescriptivist aspect. I get what bill nye is doing and I donāt disapprove. And same with you and your business. Trumpism is a deep cultural problem and Iām not sure there really is a solution, personally. Itās the result of unregulated capitalism. People worship that shit even though it hurts them personally. Iām not sure shaming them could ever reverse those who are so brainwashed.
