• stewsters@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If someone steals my bike I would totally steal it back, and depending on where you live they execute murderers. I don’t think it needs to be a special case.

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      1 year ago

      Neither of your counter examples works. ‘Stealing’ your bike back isn’t stealing; execution isn’t murder, even if you agree with it.

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        1 year ago

        The only difference between them is society is ok with one and dislikes the other. That’s the whole point. If “stealing” your own bike isn’t stealing, then rejecting the intolerant isn’t intolerance.

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          1 year ago

          No, stealing your own bike just is not stealing. It’s yours. By definition, you cannot steal something that belongs to you.

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            1 year ago

            That’s what I said. You are trying to be confusing, but only confusing yourself.

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              1 year ago

              No, the equivalent to your suggestion would be to argue that, by stealing, you waive your own property rights. Manifestly, this is not the case.

              I’d be happy to continue this conversation with you if you can do so politely.