Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

  • enki@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    There’s nothing wrong with tipping. I like the option to reward someone who made my experience great. Keyword there is option. Employers should pay employees a living wage, and if customers want to reward a great job with a few bucks on top of that, that should be allowed, even encouraged, but should never feel obligated to tip or shamed for not tipping.

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      8 months ago

      You should feel ashamed for making someone act as your slave for minimum wage. The least you could do is pay them what they’re worth.

      If you don’t like it, don’t force tipped workers to work for you. You have full control here. You could just cook your own damn food.

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        8 months ago

        I said living wage, homie, not minimum wage. I think everyone should be paid at least a living wage, I just said tipping in general isn’t bad - it just shouldn’t be used to supplement poor wages.

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          8 months ago

          Okay, but they don’t have a living wage, so you don’t get to have that option. Either tip or stop using those services.

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            8 months ago

            What fucking conversation do you think you’re a part of? Because you’re clearly not reading my comments before responding to them.

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              8 months ago

              You said customers should never feel obligated or ashamed. Never. I definitely feel ashamed of using these services and feel obligated to tip generously, and you should too.

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                8 months ago

                So we’re in agreement then? Why are you lighting me up when we’re clearly on the same side? You need to learn to recognize an ally and save the anger for someone who deserves it, or you’ll find yourself without any allies.

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                    8 months ago

                    Yes, I go to restaurants every so often, and I always tip and tip well. I refuse to punish the workers for the broken system. That doesn’t degrade my argument that they should be paid a living wage instead of having to rely on tips at all.

                    When I say customers should not feel ashamed or obligated to tip, I mean that the system should change in such a way that tips are not expected and workers are paid a living wage. The system is not currently like that, we get that. Snapping back at me over the way the system IS when we both agree on how it should be is being intentionally argumentative for no reason.

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                You’re either intentionally being obtuse or are just plain stupid. Customers SHOULDNT be in a position of being forced to tip or be ashamed for normal acitivitues. Absolutely required tipping should not be a thing. It should be optional. It doesn’t matter what the current culture is, because that’s not the conversation. That’s the point.

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                  But they are in a position of being ashamed because those workers need tips. Shoulda woulda coulda, I don’t like it when people decide to not tip as some kind of political protest against tipping.

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                    Reading comprehension was never your strong suit huh? Either that or you failed in debate class. You have the worst debate tactics I’ve seen in a long time.

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                    Let’s never talk about changing anything because it’s not the current climate then, yeah? There’s no point in discussing change at all, clearly, since it doesn’t apply to specifically exactly what’s currently going on. Truly you are a paragon of our time