Here in the United States we had increasing Measles outbreaks, and many of them in very liberal areas, well before the pandemic and the rise of Conservative anti-vaccine sentiment. It’s mostly because some quack of a Doctor from the UK managed to convince a bunch of granola crunching idiots that vaccines caused autism.
I agree there are a few non-conservatives who believe the anti-science bullshit. But they are a teeny-tiny fraction of the population. They are negligible when compared to nearly all conservatives.
They are negligible when compared to nearly all conservatives.
The idea that “Nearly All” Conservatives, in the United States anyway, are anti-science or anti-vaxx isn’t supported by any data that I’m aware of. Having these kinds of conversations on the Internet is always difficult because I can’t know if you are a low information Non-American or an American pushing a political agenda. If you’re the former you’ll like the information and links below, if you’re the latter then you’ll probably ignore this reply or twist off on some bizarre tangent.
In regards to Vaccines you can pop over to the CDCs “VaxView” system and explore the data for yourself but you won’t be able to find anywhere in the United States where the vaccination rate for “normal” childhood vaccines is under 85%, with nearly all places at or over 90%. With regard to Adult COVID Vaccination the lowest State Rate in the country is Oklahoma…which is still at 73.9. There’s numerous Red States with Adult Covid Vaccination Rates at or above 90.
So the evidence proves that your understanding is incorrect. The overwhelming majority of American Conservatives are in fact pro-vaccine, choosing to get them for their children, teens, and themselves as Adults.
Anti-Science is such a generalized statement that it’s difficult to respond too in a meaningful way but if we can accept trust in Scientists (the people) as a proxy for a trust in Science in general then recent polling from Pew Research shows that 61% of Republicans in October of 2023 trust Scientists “A Fair amount” or a “Great Deal”.
Looks like the majority of American Conservatives are not anti-science either.
I myself am not a Conservative. I’m just someone who likes to base discussion on real data.
Every state has vaccine requirement laws for schoolchildren
Even the Red ones. Huh, imagine that. I also linked you to the CDC data for all age groups and even brought forward the Adult Covid Vaxx rate which presumably would be the closest to supporting you and it doesn’t either.
you left out how it also demonstrates that the number of R or R-leaning adults that do not trust science has almost tripled from 14% in April 2020 to 38% in October 2023.
You realize that isn’t a gotcha right? Not only is it the obvious inverse of the numbers I posted it also doesn’t support your point of “nearly all” Conservatives being anti-science.
Real cherry-picked data, that is.
I disagree but please go ahead and supply your own data. I’d like to see it.
You know the total US population is 330m? You may be exaggerating your claim. You are also discounting the millions of black people that dont trust vaccines due to US history of infecting them.
Just like the pandemic, conservatism is a global plague. Why are you only taking American conservatives into account? Conservatives abroad are also anti-science, anti-education and anti-intellectual. These are conservative traits, not limited to just American conservatives.
And how am I discounting black people? Conservative =/= Republican. Many black Americans vote Democrat simply because Republicans are infamously racist against black people.
Many of the black Democrat voters are very conservative. Other than the racism, they share the traits of homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny and delusions of religious superiority.
The world: Suffers a pandemic.
Conservatives: Vaccinating is bad!
Turns out conservatism was the real plague all along.
Here in the United States we had increasing Measles outbreaks, and many of them in very liberal areas, well before the pandemic and the rise of Conservative anti-vaccine sentiment. It’s mostly because some quack of a Doctor from the UK managed to convince a bunch of granola crunching idiots that vaccines caused autism.
I agree there are a few non-conservatives who believe the anti-science bullshit. But they are a teeny-tiny fraction of the population. They are negligible when compared to nearly all conservatives.
The idea that “Nearly All” Conservatives, in the United States anyway, are anti-science or anti-vaxx isn’t supported by any data that I’m aware of. Having these kinds of conversations on the Internet is always difficult because I can’t know if you are a low information Non-American or an American pushing a political agenda. If you’re the former you’ll like the information and links below, if you’re the latter then you’ll probably ignore this reply or twist off on some bizarre tangent.
In regards to Vaccines you can pop over to the CDCs “VaxView” system and explore the data for yourself but you won’t be able to find anywhere in the United States where the vaccination rate for “normal” childhood vaccines is under 85%, with nearly all places at or over 90%. With regard to Adult COVID Vaccination the lowest State Rate in the country is Oklahoma…which is still at 73.9. There’s numerous Red States with Adult Covid Vaccination Rates at or above 90.
So the evidence proves that your understanding is incorrect. The overwhelming majority of American Conservatives are in fact pro-vaccine, choosing to get them for their children, teens, and themselves as Adults.
Anti-Science is such a generalized statement that it’s difficult to respond too in a meaningful way but if we can accept trust in Scientists (the people) as a proxy for a trust in Science in general then recent polling from Pew Research shows that 61% of Republicans in October of 2023 trust Scientists “A Fair amount” or a “Great Deal”.
Looks like the majority of American Conservatives are not anti-science either.
I myself am not a Conservative. I’m just someone who likes to base discussion on real data.
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Even the Red ones. Huh, imagine that. I also linked you to the CDC data for all age groups and even brought forward the Adult Covid Vaxx rate which presumably would be the closest to supporting you and it doesn’t either.
You realize that isn’t a gotcha right? Not only is it the obvious inverse of the numbers I posted it also doesn’t support your point of “nearly all” Conservatives being anti-science.
I disagree but please go ahead and supply your own data. I’d like to see it.
English wasn’t my first language.
Those crunchy liberal moms have contributed
There are a negligible number of them compared to the vast majority of conservatives. We are talking thousands compared to hundreds of millions.
You know the total US population is 330m? You may be exaggerating your claim. You are also discounting the millions of black people that dont trust vaccines due to US history of infecting them.
Just like the pandemic, conservatism is a global plague. Why are you only taking American conservatives into account? Conservatives abroad are also anti-science, anti-education and anti-intellectual. These are conservative traits, not limited to just American conservatives.
And how am I discounting black people? Conservative =/= Republican. Many black Americans vote Democrat simply because Republicans are infamously racist against black people.
Many of the black Democrat voters are very conservative. Other than the racism, they share the traits of homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny and delusions of religious superiority.