• instamat@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The fediverse is the way. I’m not smart enough to say if it’s the best option, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a profit driven monolith run by out of touch investors. Reddit won’t implode but it won’t be the same as it was even a week ago. This decentralized structure is what the internet wants to be.

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      The fediverse has one thing going for it that any other alternative lacks: a credible approach to dealing with the network effect. In isolation, it is very difficult to start an independent social media website. This becomes much, much easier when you have neighboring sites that you can interact with. Federation serves as a catalyst. I’ve been longing for the proliferation of open source social media for over 15 years. Nothing has changed the state of affairs more thoroughly than the introduction of federation.

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      One way I’m looking at this opportunity is like email, anyone can set up an email server thanks to how it got established. So if this pans out and eventually we get funded hosts in the vein of Gmail and Hotmail, who spend money writing fancy UIs and on marketing, we still have a fundamental base where we can shuffle away from the big players and go set up our own servers.

      I do hope to see some funded options come into this space, they can control/own their interface into the data, but they can’t control/own the data.

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        1 year ago

        as long as we are vigilant for the microsoft method of embrace, extend, extingush/enshittify we will be good.

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            Server costs, lawyers, management will add up eventually. Ads or other financial incentives will take part in this at some point. The biggest instance, which will have the most funding, could monopolize by defederating others. Though with future account portability it could be made impossible. As in if reddit was the instance, most communities and users would seamlessly move over to others. But right now the risk is real.

            Beehaw just defederated lemmy.world and users have to either move with the bigger fediverse of lemmy.world or stay confined to their isolated instance.

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                1 year ago

                Too few moderators, poor modding tools, no backchannel to original instance, overwhelming amount of users from big instance.

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                  New to the fediverse, I notice I can still access my beehaw.org subs. Does defederating mean that users on that instance can’t see out? Or does it just delist everything, but you can access other communities if you know the address?

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                    1 year ago

                    if you are in an instance that was not defederated by beehaw, then nothing changes for you or them.

                    if you are on an instance that was defederated, then you see a snapshot of old behaw content, but no new content from beehaw (I believe). local interactions and other instances still federated with your instance are unaffected.

                    important to note that beehaw will likely refederate once the current wave dies down and more admin and mod tools are in place. beehaw admins have the right to manage their instance as they see fit and beehaw users have the right to disagree, and move to another instance if they choose (while still remaining on the lemmy network).

                    edit: words - they be hard sometimes.

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        1 year ago

        I’m brand new to the fediverse concept so funded hosting hadn’t occurred to me. Yeah, let the big boys throw some money at it and we reap the benefits!

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      It’s either fediverse or nostr. But nostr is more twitter-like than reddit-like and is filled with cryptobros so no thanks no