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      I’d say arbitrary but still interesting to think about. You could take 1,000 slices in time and get lost in the data, but it’s interesting just to look at a few I don’t think it claims to be EVERY country that no longer exists

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    11 months ago

    I mean, what were the middle parts of Italy and Germany before? Wouldn’t those technically be countries that don’t exist anymore as well?

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              Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

              Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

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        Now I got flashbacks from Advanced European History. Been 35+ years and you hit me with this. I won’t be able to sleep tonight.

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          Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

          Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

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      10 months ago

      What about the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ?

      Or the multiple Kingdoms which existed on both islands 1,000 + years ago ?

      Historically just about the oldest recognisable country in Europe is France and even it’s borders have shifted on multiple occasions.

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      10 months ago

      I used to work with a guy who was very insistent that he was Czechoslovak.

      Not Czech nor Slovak but Czechoslovak !

      Seemingly his Mother was one and his Father the other and he took great pride in his hybrid identity and allegiance to a country which no longer exists.

      Probably loads of folk like that in the former Yugoslavia and USSR as well.

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    11 months ago

    I can’t believe this map includes Castile, but does not make any mention of Al-Andalus. That’s one of the most interesting epochs of Iberian history!

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      TBF if you’re going to include all the countries that no longer exist on this map, it’d be unreadable.

      Off the top of my head (and in no particular order): all the small states in the Holy Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Roman Empire, the Western Roman Empire, Dacia, Poland-Lithuania, Scotland, England, the Kingdom of Ireland, Wales, Burgundy, Al-Andalus, Czechoslovakia, the DDR, Yugoslavia, Byzantium, the Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungaria, the Irish Kingdoms, etc.

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        Yeah, that’s my point. They included a few random ones, that existed hundred of years ago. When recently, a bunch of countries stopped existing, which makes them more rellevant today, yet are not on the map

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    Always fascinating that one of the longest existing countries was venice (and a republic at that, I think it’s the longest existing republic) … Over a thousand years! That’s longer than the Roman empire (stfu no one thinks that the eastern Roman empire is the Roman empire :D) . And certainly longer that the 1000 year Reich

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    Wikipedia: it was.

    Also, it absolutely was. Sure it was nominally a union of federal republics, but they had very little autonomy from Moscow. If you’re going to argue that made the republics independent states, you might as well argue that present day states in Germany or the US are independent countries. They have more autonomy than the Soviet republics had.

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    Prussia existed as a duchy before 1701 and was still a sovereign state until 1934, and wasn’t officially abolished until after World War II.

    Need to be more specific about this.