It’s a bit off-topic, but that’s the main reason why I don’t think that “aggregate scores” (karma) should be ever a thing in Lemmy. Not even optional - because even if you don’t care about karma, the other people around you do it, and they’ll still shit on the same common environment because of karma.
I understand this but at the same time…assigning a “worth” to posts and comments is helpful when it comes to finding useful information. If I am looking to solve a specific issue on an HP Xx.bb.x laptop or how to overcome tennis elbow…there might be 10 Reddit threads asking the same question. 9 of them have a few comments and zero useful information. One comment has a complete fix and is even referred to as the correct answer on other posts.
In a time when Google delivers pages of useless results…designating a post or comment as the “best” is valuable. Highly upvoted comments and posts typically hold good information, or a funny story or something people agree with.
Is it possible for us to have the benefits of voting without the nonsense that comes with it?
Is it possible for us to have the benefits of voting without the nonsense that comes with it?
Isn’t that essentially what Lemmy has? You can vote on comments, you can see the score of an individual comment, but there’s no aggregate score on user profiles, so the incentive to karma farm just isn’t there. Sure, there’ll be people who just really want to get high-scoring posts, and operate with that mindset, but I think it’s far, far less than on Reddit.
KoboldCoterie already said what I would. I’m also OK with individual scores for posts/comments, it’s just that scores for your overall contribution instil the wrong mindset in the platform.
But even for posts/comments, there are some problems, it’s just that the benefits outweigh them. People upvote stupid shit that they tend to agree on, or that they find passable, without taking into account if it’s actually contributive.
It’s a bit off-topic, but that’s the main reason why I don’t think that “aggregate scores” (karma) should be ever a thing in Lemmy. Not even optional - because even if you don’t care about karma, the other people around you do it, and they’ll still shit on the same common environment because of karma.
I understand this but at the same time…assigning a “worth” to posts and comments is helpful when it comes to finding useful information. If I am looking to solve a specific issue on an HP Xx.bb.x laptop or how to overcome tennis elbow…there might be 10 Reddit threads asking the same question. 9 of them have a few comments and zero useful information. One comment has a complete fix and is even referred to as the correct answer on other posts.
In a time when Google delivers pages of useless results…designating a post or comment as the “best” is valuable. Highly upvoted comments and posts typically hold good information, or a funny story or something people agree with.
Is it possible for us to have the benefits of voting without the nonsense that comes with it?
Isn’t that essentially what Lemmy has? You can vote on comments, you can see the score of an individual comment, but there’s no aggregate score on user profiles, so the incentive to karma farm just isn’t there. Sure, there’ll be people who just really want to get high-scoring posts, and operate with that mindset, but I think it’s far, far less than on Reddit.
Ohhhh I gotcha. I’m totally good with that.
KoboldCoterie already said what I would. I’m also OK with individual scores for posts/comments, it’s just that scores for your overall contribution instil the wrong mindset in the platform.
But even for posts/comments, there are some problems, it’s just that the benefits outweigh them. People upvote stupid shit that they tend to agree on, or that they find passable, without taking into account if it’s actually contributive.
Interesting perspective, it makes sense.