He later did donate the money, but only after being publicly called out, and his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to, not that he forgot.
He’s still a scumbag, but don’t oversell it, the truth is bad enough.
He starts by saying he didnt know and “that’s not cool” but than changes his story and now it was totaly the plan all along. But on top of this, for years he would say all money they receive would be donated including things like twitch subscriptions and all that but now he says they used that money for their own costs. But wait there’s more! His familly also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity but that money is nowhere to be found.
And to top it all off, he keeps bringing up his dead mother to try to get sympathy. The Completionist is a COMPLETE scumbag and a consistent liar, you cant trust a word he says. Oh and he is threatening to sue the people that brought his clear fraud to light.
I’m not going to defend or attack the guy, merely point out that facts. How much he knew and when is certainly up for debate, we just have limited evidence of that.
What we do have are facts, and those facts can certainly be used for cause for tht authorities to investigate.
His family also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity
That’s partially true. What we know is that his dad runs a golf tournament and put the Open Hand Foundation on the ads. Usually this means all proceeds go to the charity, or at least that they get the sponsorship money (i.e. merch and whatnot) according to the prices they have listed for sponsors, but we don’t have the actual agreement AFAIK between the tournament and the charity.
So there’s certainly enough to warrant an investigation, but not enough to actually prove any kind of crime. There does seem to be enough to prove negligence for holding onto the money for 10 years though, which should be enough to trigger a thorough audit, including alleged golf tournament income.
And that’s what I don’t like about this whole thing. They’ve already presented facts and contacted the relevant authorities, so anything further they say is conjecture and therefore YouTube drama. The first video by Mutahar was informative, the second was a bit of drama (they should’ve investigated the golf thing a bit more), the third was just dunking on him, and any further videos I see that aren’t directly related to an investigation are pure Internet drama at this point.
He’s still a scumbag, but don’t oversell it, the truth is bad enough.
One, running a charity and saying that you’re donating money and then not donating that money is still charity fraud, especially when you advertise that you’ve “donated the money” in past events.
Two, they run another golf event that has donations that are easily tracked (by the number of donation members and tier groups for those donations), but the money from those events do not add up to the money they have on their non-profit statements. They have also conveniently left out their donation amounts for that golf event in an (very poor) attempt to hide the money that they have been stealing from that event.
He’s a scumbag, and a criminal, and a thief. And he and his brother deserves to serve prison time. And they did this in the dumbest way possible, to the point that a YouTuber could follow the path and find the fraud. This sort of case is a federal prosecutor’s wet dream.
running a charity and saying that you’re donating money and then not donating that money is still charity fraud
Potentially. I’m not a tax expert, and I do know there’s usually some leeway about timing, though there’s a good chance delaying for 10 years does violate the law (not sure how the process of moving from private to public nonprofit changes things). This would hinge on how the IRS sees the “promises” Jirard made when asking for donations, whether the eventual donation fits with those promises, and how the IRS interprets the law.
There’s certainly enough to allege that they committed charity fraud, but there absolutely must be an official investigation before conclusions can be drawn. If you jump to conclusions, you can legitimately be sued for defamation and perhaps libel, depending on the statements.
the money from those events do not add up to the money they have on their non-profit statements
Again, that’s not proof, it’s evidence, and it certainly warrants closer inspection. We don’t know the deal between the groups involved, and we have no way of getting those without an investigation.
You can absolutely say, “this is really fishy, explain yourselves” and file reports to the relevant authorities (crowd-sourcing reports is a step too far since it just increases the crap authorities need to wade through).
He’s a scumbag, and a criminal, and a thief
There’s a good chance of that, but at the end of the day, he is innocent until proven guilty, and if you assume otherwise, you open yourself up to defamation lawsuits. That doesn’t matter on something like Lemmy, but it absolutely does for people use make their living off public statements.
Well Mayne he didn’t donate all the money because there are things lite donations, merch , bits and the golf tournament that weren’t factored in by some ordinary gamer. So some money may still be gone
Perhaps, but we don’t know anything about those figures, so it’s going to need to be investigated by the IRS or state equivalent who can get that information. But at this point there’s merely a suggestion of fraud, no solid proof. They’ve said their piece, now it’s up to the authorities.
He later did donate the money, but only after being publicly called out, and his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to, not that he forgot.
He’s still a scumbag, but don’t oversell it, the truth is bad enough.
He starts by saying he didnt know and “that’s not cool” but than changes his story and now it was totaly the plan all along. But on top of this, for years he would say all money they receive would be donated including things like twitch subscriptions and all that but now he says they used that money for their own costs. But wait there’s more! His familly also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity but that money is nowhere to be found.
And to top it all off, he keeps bringing up his dead mother to try to get sympathy. The Completionist is a COMPLETE scumbag and a consistent liar, you cant trust a word he says. Oh and he is threatening to sue the people that brought his clear fraud to light.
I think that covers it
I’m not going to defend or attack the guy, merely point out that facts. How much he knew and when is certainly up for debate, we just have limited evidence of that.
What we do have are facts, and those facts can certainly be used for cause for tht authorities to investigate.
That’s partially true. What we know is that his dad runs a golf tournament and put the Open Hand Foundation on the ads. Usually this means all proceeds go to the charity, or at least that they get the sponsorship money (i.e. merch and whatnot) according to the prices they have listed for sponsors, but we don’t have the actual agreement AFAIK between the tournament and the charity.
So there’s certainly enough to warrant an investigation, but not enough to actually prove any kind of crime. There does seem to be enough to prove negligence for holding onto the money for 10 years though, which should be enough to trigger a thorough audit, including alleged golf tournament income.
And that’s what I don’t like about this whole thing. They’ve already presented facts and contacted the relevant authorities, so anything further they say is conjecture and therefore YouTube drama. The first video by Mutahar was informative, the second was a bit of drama (they should’ve investigated the golf thing a bit more), the third was just dunking on him, and any further videos I see that aren’t directly related to an investigation are pure Internet drama at this point.
One, running a charity and saying that you’re donating money and then not donating that money is still charity fraud, especially when you advertise that you’ve “donated the money” in past events.
Two, they run another golf event that has donations that are easily tracked (by the number of donation members and tier groups for those donations), but the money from those events do not add up to the money they have on their non-profit statements. They have also conveniently left out their donation amounts for that golf event in an (very poor) attempt to hide the money that they have been stealing from that event.
He’s a scumbag, and a criminal, and a thief. And he and his brother deserves to serve prison time. And they did this in the dumbest way possible, to the point that a YouTuber could follow the path and find the fraud. This sort of case is a federal prosecutor’s wet dream.
There is no such thing as “overselling” this.
Potentially. I’m not a tax expert, and I do know there’s usually some leeway about timing, though there’s a good chance delaying for 10 years does violate the law (not sure how the process of moving from private to public nonprofit changes things). This would hinge on how the IRS sees the “promises” Jirard made when asking for donations, whether the eventual donation fits with those promises, and how the IRS interprets the law.
There’s certainly enough to allege that they committed charity fraud, but there absolutely must be an official investigation before conclusions can be drawn. If you jump to conclusions, you can legitimately be sued for defamation and perhaps libel, depending on the statements.
Again, that’s not proof, it’s evidence, and it certainly warrants closer inspection. We don’t know the deal between the groups involved, and we have no way of getting those without an investigation.
You can absolutely say, “this is really fishy, explain yourselves” and file reports to the relevant authorities (crowd-sourcing reports is a step too far since it just increases the crap authorities need to wade through).
There’s a good chance of that, but at the end of the day, he is innocent until proven guilty, and if you assume otherwise, you open yourself up to defamation lawsuits. That doesn’t matter on something like Lemmy, but it absolutely does for people use make their living off public statements.
Well Mayne he didn’t donate all the money because there are things lite donations, merch , bits and the golf tournament that weren’t factored in by some ordinary gamer. So some money may still be gone
Perhaps, but we don’t know anything about those figures, so it’s going to need to be investigated by the IRS or state equivalent who can get that information. But at this point there’s merely a suggestion of fraud, no solid proof. They’ve said their piece, now it’s up to the authorities.
So the money actually got to charities? Yeah he’s scumbag, but not so much of one that shame didn’t work on him, at least.
Yup. The series of events was roughly this: