- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
With a border deal hanging in the balance and the Iowa caucuses a month away, Donald Trump amplified his attack on immigrants at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.
“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” the former president said. “They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world. Not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world they’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia.”
While in the White House, Trump sought to deter immigration by building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, building some 450 miles of fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile border, much of which replaced existing barriers. In addition to strict border security measures, his administration also implemented a travel ban for people from several predominantly Muslim countries.
As I watch the Muslim community threatening Joe Biden, I really truly wonder if they could actually cut their own noses off and vote for this clear threat to their existence in America.
That anyone can stand up and say this to a crowd of Americans and still legitimately have a chance to win the presidency is terrifying.
The trick is really to give Joe as much hell as possible so hes scared we won’t. Doesn’t mean we have to keep our word.
Joe’s been at this a long time. He dgaf what people who can’t vote against him think.
They don’t have to vote for Trump. If enough people stay home then that may be all that’s needed. One thing for certain is that the right wingers aren’t going to stay home.
So you’re saying that the Muslim community is stupid enough to stay home and let Trump win? Clearly they’re aware of this reality as you are. That doesn’t make sense to me.
Understanding this phenomena is part of tolerance. Muslims are very hierarchal culturally. Generally new immigrants see themselves as on the lower end of the hierarchy with several layers of people above them who are within their rights to oppress them. Unfortunately, Muslims tend to see LGBTQ+ as belonging below them. Biden might be saying “we’ll make America better for you”, but until they see LGBTQ+ people as worse off than them, someone with a hierarchal mindset will not feel better off.
Trump might say “we’re going to oppress Muslims”, but he’s also saying “we’re going to oppress gays and trans much more”. Someone that’s hierarchal minded will see that as improving his position in society. Their position isn’t absolute, it’s relative.
To beat this we have to understand that most immigrants, not just Muslims, have a hierarchical mindset. We need to fight against social hierarchy as a mindset, and include that in the messaging we give to new immigrants. We also have to understand that LGBTQ+ rights are going to lose us considerable immigrant vote and time our pushes accordingly to ensure the best chance of success and the fastest possible progress.
Are you a Muslim? You’re very confident that you know how Muslims think.
Lol, I’m not sure what part you’re debating here. Arab/Muslim culture is very hierarchal and generally not pro LGBT. I’ve lived in Muslim countries long enough to understand those two things. Those are the only 2 “assumptions” I’ve made, everything else applies generally to a hierarchical (or socialy conservative) mindset.
If you want to debate those two facts feel free, I’d love to hear that there has been enough positive change in the last decade that most Arab countries are no longer hierarchal/patriarchal or have come around on LGBT rights.
Let me know, I’d love to see the studies!
So you’re not Muslim, then. Got it
It beats the other message of Americans second. People are watching Chicago and NYC go down the tubes under the burden of illegal immigration. Marginalized communities are also seeing thier hand outs get taken by said groups.
So yea an American first message is very compelling and every day more people are flocking to it
This is not a coherent position. You’re basically just talking about feelings, not actual facts or policy.
Also, where can I find this “Americans second” message you speak of? Where did you see or hear that? Are you sure you’re not making it up?
Don’t feed the Nazi zombies.
Read up on new york. Illegal migrants are now taking poor new Yorkers food and shelter spots.
Go look at Chicago and the black marches against the mayor.
As long as the souther border is open then bidens message is Americans second.