• bstix@feddit.dk
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      11 months ago

      That is the news. That it is only two. The right wing party in Finland is hell bent on building a wall to stop the hoardes of illegal immigrants that are supposedly being bussed in by Putin.

      Now, there are all kinds of good reasons to watch this border closely after Finland joined NATO and Putin has promised to make trouble there, but illegal immigrants?? Those are a fictional threat.

      However, the same threat is being pushed by right wing parties in every European country. The threat originates from somewhere. Apparently, someone somewhere wants to push fake news about illegal immigration. It is fuel for fascism. It divides the population and creates patriotism that will hinder international collaboration.

      Who could be interested in that? That person is the real enemy.

      European countries shouldn’t spend resources on stopping illegal immigrants. European politicians shouldn’t spend time arguing over illegal immigration. We should be using our resources and time to figure out why so many people are needlessly afraid of immigrants.

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    11 months ago

    I found it kind of wild the extent of undocumented immigration we have in the US (hundreds of thousands a year), and an article I read the other day said Finland was experiencing ‘dozens’ of immigrants coming over. Or this about 2 people.

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      11 months ago

      Is the US border closed completely? This is about the border between Finland and Russia that is now closed until mid-January. It is not about immigration to Finland or anywhere else in the EU. The sudden appearance of would-be immigrants with no visas is a part of Russia’s hybrid operations against Finland, because the two have had a practice where Russia will not allow people with no visas to pass their border control to approach Finland, and Russia suddenly started letting them through.

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        11 months ago

        It’s theoretically closed to illegal immigrants, sure. Of course in practice that’s very difficult to do given the terrain, length and remote nature of much of the southern border.

        I have read about how this is believed to be an intentional destabilization attempt by Russia, which of course they’d do. Also given the governments fascist nature, I’m sure they don’t really want immigrants.

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      11 months ago

      illegal immigration in the us includes people overstaying visas. Finland has plenty of overstayed visas too, but the border to Russia is meant to be closed due to the war escalation in Ukraine.

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        11 months ago

        Sure, but I’m talking about people who come up from Central America with no visa at all.

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      11 months ago

      In Europe and Finland there are a lot of undocumented immigrants. It’s in the news as well. This is news because it’s from Russia through a border which should be closed fully.

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      11 months ago

      Imo, its part of the whole “America bad” thing going on, that America deserves it.Finland is a “good” country, so its notable when they get punished.