Don’t get me wrong. I love Linux and FOSS. I have been using and installing distros on my own since I was 12. Now that I’m working in tech-related positions, after the Reddit migration happened, etc. I recovered my interest in all the Linux environment. I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited. There’s always software I can’t use properly (and not just Windows stuff), some stuff badly configured with weird error messages… last time I was not able to even use the apt command. Sometimes I lack time and energy for troubleshooting and sometimes I just fail at it.

I usually end up in need of redoing a fresh install until it breaks up again. Maybe Linux is not good for beginners working full time? Maybe we should do something like that Cisco course that teaches you the basic commands?

  • shapis@lemmy.ml
    718·
    11 months ago

    If someone is using a stable distro like Debian, and just wants to do what 90% of people do (i.e. browsing, looking at documents media etc.), Linux isn’t really a hassle.

    I see this point repeated a lot, it’s just not true.

    For example sudo apt upgrade is broken currently on the debian live images.

    Imagine you tell someone “if you want stable, go debian” they hear it and install it and literally first apt update upgrade it’s borked.

    There isnt a distro that isnt a hassle, that doesnt exist.

      • shapis@lemmy.ml
        33·
        11 months ago

        I’m confused about this question.

        If you install debian through the live image. The apt upgrade of your installation will come out of the box broken.

        • priapus@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          11 months ago

          I haven’t seen anyone mention this problem, and I’ve recently installed Debian and didn’t have this problem.

          • shapis@lemmy.ml
            12·
            11 months ago

            I linked it elsewhere. It’s a problem if you install from the live image. If you want I could find the link again for ya.

            • priapus@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              11 months ago

              I ended up finding it after replying. Definitely an unfortunate issue, but the replies say it is fixed and the updated ISO will not have it.

      • shapis@lemmy.ml
        23·
        11 months ago

        Because you can’t update your system at all. How’s that not a problem?

        • amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          11 months ago

          … from a live environment. Thats not a problem because almost no one does that, and certainly not a problem because no one relies on updating a live environment for their desktop usage.

          • shapis@lemmy.ml
            31·
            11 months ago

            That’s not it. If you install on your hardware with the live image. Apt upgrade is broken. On your hardware. Not on the live image.

            • amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz
              1·
              11 months ago

              Ah, well that is a serious issue! I’ve never experienced a bug even close to that bad on distros with a reputation of being less stable than Debian, so that surprises me.