CW: Brief child sexual abuse mention.

Is anyone else worried about this? Tumblr banned porn in 2018, and recently they’ve begun to restrict content even further. GFYCat banned porn. Imgur is also banning porn. Reddit doesn’t allow you to use it to host images on NSFW subs, and I’ll bet you anything they ban porn entirely within a year or so.

Where does that leave people who even just want to discuss adult content? Even if you think porn should disappear from society–and I would hardcore disagree with that–that’s not the only thing that’s getting caught up in this wave of censorship. On Tumblr, if you were sexually abused by an adult as a minor, you can no longer discuss this. Literally any reference to child sexual abuse by an adult is now banned on Tumblr. Even if you’re recounting something that happened to you. Hell, even if it’s fictional.

Where are you supposed to go now to discuss adult topics? Twitter is a fascist hellhole, but soon it’s going to be one of your only options, at least social media-wise. And even outright porn is getting harder to find. Your options now are basically the mainstream porn sites and the shit you have to do deep googling for, with nothing in between.

I find this very worrying. Even the vilest, most no-redeeming-social-value porn doesn’t deserve to be banished from the internet entirely. As long as someone gets something out of it and no one is harmed in its creation, porn has its place. But while decentralized alternatives are cropping up to replace social media, nobody seems to want to step up and make a place where we can all be horny without corporate influence.

Or maybe I’m just bitching that I don’t know where to find the good porn on Mastodon. Who knows. Regardless, I think there’s a worthwhile discussion to be had about the scouring of the internet of too risque for advertisers.

Edit: You know what, this person articulates it better than I ever could: https://devonprice.medium.com/mourning-porn-on-imgur-mourning-trans-kinky-history-64de2eaaa6ce

  • balerion@beehaw.orgOP
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    That’s a big part of what I’m worried about too. Normie shit will always exist, even if it has to go underground. But what about the rest of us? We should be allowed to enjoy being horny too, dammit. And sex workers should be allowed to make a living in peace.

    CW: mentions of child sexual exploitation in this bit

    You mention Cohost, but I actually left in disgust after they announced they were banning porn of underage fictional characters. I don’t even really consume that content, but I will die on the hill that pretending fictional characters have the same rights as real people is puritanical nonsense. Drawing or writing any porn, no matter how morally reprehensible the content, harms no one (assuming you aren’t referencing real people in your art). Even indie sites that should really know better fall prey to this nonsense. And comparing sexualizing heavily stylized pixel characters to real-world child sexual abuse is incredibly insulting to survivors.

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      You mention Cohost, but I actually left in disgust after they announced they were banning porn of underage fictional characters. I don’t even really consume that content, but I will die on the hill that pretending fictional characters have the same rights as real people is puritanical nonsense.

      funny enough they’re going through this row again because they revised their guidelines today and they now allow for non-human, underage porn (“cub art”, for the furries in the audience) and a lot of people are really mad they’re even allowing that. hilariously, i can now draw on my experience moderating this place to explain to people how hard it is to write rules like that and why i appreciate them trying to allow some of that content with coherent rules, instead of just blanket banning it and being done.

      also as an aside, you can use spoilers in markdown to hide the mentions of sexual exploitation. lemmy doesn’t use markdown, but commonmark, so they’re done like this here:

      ::: spoiler hidden or nsfw stuff
      a bunch of spoilers here
      :::
      

      on here.

      hidden or nsfw stuff

      woo!

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        Oh, thank you, that’s very useful! I’ll edit.

        And lol. I find it incredibly silly that people get so worked up over shit that’s literally not real, especially people who would otherwise consider themselves sex-positive and don’t realize they’ve ingested Christian “impure thoughts are bad even though they don’t hurt anyone” propaganda.

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          Oh, thank you, that’s very useful! I’ll edit.

          oh oops, i ambiguously did the formatting, so your heading is the whole thing you tried to spoil. here’s a better formatting of it:

          ::: [heading]
          [spoiled stuff, one space after the part you want to be the heading]
          :::
          
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            I can’t seem to make this work. Not sure what I’m doing wrong.

            Edit: Never mind. Had to refresh to see it.

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        Thank you so much for that spoiler tag explainer, I’ve been wondering about that this whole time since I joined a few days ago. I wish there was an interface button for in jerboa (maybe there is on the website?) like there is for bold and italics and so on.

        Edit: I think possibly the spoiler tags may just not work in jerboa at all, actually. Mayhap I will have to abandon this app for the website until it’s improved or another app appears.

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            Oh, thank you! That is handy. Guess I missed it by virtue of applying via mobile, then switching to jerboa. I’ve not touched the desktop site yet at all! I shall though, sooner or later.