The reddit blackout is even more effectivte than expected! 5177/8829 (~60%) of subreddits are still dark [1] and the posts per minute are down to 1000 from 1400 [2].

This is huge. Subreddits were supposed to be back up yesterday. I personally missed Reddit the first day but now I am super comfortable here.

Glad to have found a new place to hang out!

Edit: Reddit has 100k subs, 60% out of those who officially signed up

[1] https://reddark.untone.uk/

[2] https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/news/Reddit-Blackout-dauert-an-30-Prozent-weniger-Aktivitaet-Werbebranche-wartet-ab-9189048.html?wt_mc=rss.red.ho.ho.rdf.beitrag.beitrag&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

  • EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world
    115·
    2 years ago

    When you lose 30% of your users because you got greedy about how ‘unprofitable’ your own app was, it’s gonna hurt.

    • Overzeetop@lemmy.world
      60·
      2 years ago

      True punishment would be active, content rich posters zeroing out their posts and comment history. By doing so, the Google searches - which currently refer a ton of traffic to the site - will start to fade. The body of knowledge- users knowledge, not Reddit’s- is what drives new traffic to the site. I plan to remove my contributions later this month, presuming nothing changes.

      • Jimmni@kbin.social
        28·
        2 years ago

        15 year redditor, though only with ~250k karma. Scrubbed the crap out of my account. I’ll probably still use reddit on desktop for as long as old.reddit exists, but for mobile I’m definitely trying out alternatives.

            • operator@kbin.socialOP
              6·
              2 years ago

              A copy of all reddit posts & comments is being passed around there. Everything up until March 2023 or so. Unfortunately no community here yet.

              Anyone knows more?

              Edit: See https://the-eye.eu/redarcs/ and the explanation by r/DataHoarder (linked somewhere below)

              • randomperson@kbin.social
                2·
                2 years ago

                I think reusing that data by anyone would be a very shady move. Not everyone who posted on reddit wants their posts and comments to float around in various places without their consent. I know posting online always poses the risk that what you post will be archived somewhere but I still think no one should build any new service on that data.

                • operator@kbin.socialOP
                  4·
                  2 years ago

                  You are absolutely right. But the data is out there anyways. Reddit keeps copies as much as Google and other creepy spiders. The amount of aggregated and unified knowledge these dump contain is astonishing. For personal research or just preservation.

                  There are plenty of sites where you can already see old, deleted comments. So barely a new risk.

          • Ferk@kbin.social
            4·
            2 years ago

            It’s a pitty there aren’t many (any?) subreddits that are “officially” endorsing a specific community in lemmy (or magazine in kbin) for migration.

            • Melon_Cooler@kbin.social
              2·
              2 years ago

              The few I’ve seen that have promoted alternatives usually just say something like “lemmy,” or provide a whole host of alternatives, resulting in a wide spread across platforms for the few that do migrate.

            • operator@kbin.socialOP
              1·
              2 years ago

              Thats true. I guess they are all till trying to figure out what to do. We also need to give @eduard and the other platforms more time to scale the infrastructure, setup moderation where needed and address issues… Imagine just 10% of reddit users & activity migrating over here in a matter of weeks.

            • 52fighters@kbin.social
              1·
              2 years ago

              I bet any post encouraging a migration would get yanked very quickly! The best bet is to pm people who were quality contributors to the sub, to encourage them to continue in a platform that’s open.

      • Icalasari@kbin.social
        11·
        2 years ago

        Same here, going to do it a few days before the API change just in case they pull some crap to prevent mass scrubbing losses

        • dan@upvote.au
          2·
          2 years ago

          GDPR (for EU users) and CCPA (for Californian users) both have the right “to be forgotten”, which means they must delete all your data upon request. Even if they block the third-party bulk deletion sites that use their API, they should still delete all your data upon request, at least if you’re in a jurisdiction with such a requirement.

          • randomperson@kbin.social
            4·
            2 years ago

            It isn’t that powerful. They don’t have to remove comments or posts if they don’t contain any personal data that you can be identified with.

            • dan@upvote.au
              1·
              2 years ago

              Don’t they have to delete all “my” data though? I guess I’m not sure of the specific wording of the laws, but at my workplace we delete all data that’s directly related to the user (data they created, plus any other data collected or logged about them), even if it doesn’t contain any personal data. The systems that handle this are super complex so I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of companies don’t handle it well.

              • operator@kbin.socialOP
                3·
                2 years ago

                Yeah, but with what they’ve pulled off so far they have been perfectly following the playbook for a “data unlawfully retained” scandal for reddit. Some GDPR fine.

      • NarrativeBear@kbin.social
        1·
        2 years ago

        Why not sooner then later, holding out gives reddit hope.

        There are a few useful extensions and browser plugins that help automate editing your past comment history and posts to be blank, the same tool then deletes the post and comment for you.

        Don’t leave anything behind IMO. I know I did not.

    • crowsby@kbin.social
      40·
      2 years ago

      The other significant factor is that even their recently-slashed valuation was based on some degree of projected user growth. If you’re trying to IPO and your growth has flattened, it’s bad bad news. If your engagement numbers are actively moving backwards, that’s catastrophic.

      Looking at posts per minute seems like a great way to judge the effect though. I anticipate Reddit, Inc. will attempt to downplay the effect by focusing on numbers that take engagement out of the picture, like Monthly Average Users. If you touch the site once in the month, even by absent-mindedly clicking on a Google result, you’d get counted in that for June. And they wouldn’t report the July numbers until August because, golly it’s an incomplete month. And by then, their hope is that the world will have moved on.

      Internally, I’m sure there aware of the impact. But externally, I believe they’ll cherrypick favorable metrics to try and control the narrative for the investing & advertising communities.

      • Aposperite@kbin.social
        6·
        2 years ago

        I anticipate Reddit, Inc. will attempt to downplay the effect by focusing on numbers that take engagement out of the picture

        You pretty much described every corporation in the history of mankind. This is what they always do.

    • roofuskit@kbin.social
      15·
      2 years ago

      They lost more than 30% of their actual users. Of the remaining traffic a portion is just bots. Maybe 10%? Maybe 30%? No idea, but not all of the remaining traffic is real people.

      • djidane535@kbin.social
        6·
        2 years ago

        I don’t know. Since the API pricing has not been applied yet, I assume many boys are still running.