Pretty much every living thing on this planet is an omnivore if they’re hungry. Unless someone’s living conditions allow for it, they will not become vegan. There’s a reason that dog meat only became morally questionable in China after the nation industrialized.
An example that goes against this is India, where they still don’t have a massive surplus of food, but still widely are vegetarian. However, Hindu/Buddhist thought in India didn’t start moving towards vegetarianism until around 400BCE-200CE, when India had one of most prosperous economies in the world and they were urbanizing. So even in the case of a major religious shift like what happened in India, the only way diets change is by different things being more available.
its not really just hunger, sure Chicken is a cheap form of meat but as @aaaaaaadjsf mentioned, it goes beyond just hunger and more of a treat. Obviously, people in global south don’t have the purchasing power to consume copious amounts of meat like Liver King or whatever does.
Also, India being vegetarian is not completely accurate, whether one consumes meat depends on their caste and even many of the so called ‘upper’ caste people consume meat (except for beef).
I think the first step is to start teaching children about animal welfare and how animals are mistreated in school.
It’s not hunger as in “people starving”, it’s hunger in the sense of not being constantly anxious over where your next meal comes from. As long as people do not have the cognitive space to even think about changing their food, they probably won’t. I’d include America in this statement about “vegetarianism” won’t become a majority without living condition changes".
This is true, India is very socially complex. However, something I see in India that I haven’t really seen elsewhere is how big they are on being vegetarian. People in India aren’t all forced to be vegetarians, many are very proud of being vegetarian because the major religions of the nation all say something about killing animals, like even Muslims have Halal meat rules. There’s been a discourse there for thousands of years in that culture that has made people want to be vegetarians. With 30-40 percent of the nation identifying themselves as vegetarian, they are a functionally vegetarian nation.
You are right though, we need to teach children to think about animal welfare more.
but as @aaaaaaadjsf mentioned, it goes beyond just hunger and more of a treat.
The day South Africans realise our processed meat heavy, and simple carbohydrate heavy diet of vleis and pap, is giving us cancer and diabetes, is the day this country collapses lol. People here love our simple food treats here way too much. A bodybuilder over here went viral for trying to lose their abs over Christmas dinner by just eating everything and anything.
Pretty much every living thing on this planet is an omnivore if they’re hungry. Unless someone’s living conditions allow for it, they will not become vegan. There’s a reason that dog meat only became morally questionable in China after the nation industrialized.
An example that goes against this is India, where they still don’t have a massive surplus of food, but still widely are vegetarian. However, Hindu/Buddhist thought in India didn’t start moving towards vegetarianism until around 400BCE-200CE, when India had one of most prosperous economies in the world and they were urbanizing. So even in the case of a major religious shift like what happened in India, the only way diets change is by different things being more available.
its not really just hunger, sure Chicken is a cheap form of meat but as @aaaaaaadjsf mentioned, it goes beyond just hunger and more of a treat. Obviously, people in global south don’t have the purchasing power to consume copious amounts of meat like Liver King or whatever does.
Also, India being vegetarian is not completely accurate, whether one consumes meat depends on their caste and even many of the so called ‘upper’ caste people consume meat (except for beef).
I think the first step is to start teaching children about animal welfare and how animals are mistreated in school.
It’s not hunger as in “people starving”, it’s hunger in the sense of not being constantly anxious over where your next meal comes from. As long as people do not have the cognitive space to even think about changing their food, they probably won’t. I’d include America in this statement about “vegetarianism” won’t become a majority without living condition changes".
This is true, India is very socially complex. However, something I see in India that I haven’t really seen elsewhere is how big they are on being vegetarian. People in India aren’t all forced to be vegetarians, many are very proud of being vegetarian because the major religions of the nation all say something about killing animals, like even Muslims have Halal meat rules. There’s been a discourse there for thousands of years in that culture that has made people want to be vegetarians. With 30-40 percent of the nation identifying themselves as vegetarian, they are a functionally vegetarian nation.
You are right though, we need to teach children to think about animal welfare more.
The day South Africans realise our processed meat heavy, and simple carbohydrate heavy diet of vleis and pap, is giving us cancer and diabetes, is the day this country collapses lol. People here love our simple food treats here way too much. A bodybuilder over here went viral for trying to lose their abs over Christmas dinner by just eating everything and anything.